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| Author: | Fin [ Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | My disagreements with (new) inner game. |
Summary: It's impractical, in-efficient and clumsy. Ego-less states: (I don't mind if I am rejected, I am here to give girls a good time) Turns what was a sharp knife into a blunt mangled hunk of metal void of any purpose, design or intent, that realistically should be chucked out of the kitchen and sold for scrap. Natural states: (just do what is natural, it's all in you) Work absolutly fine if you have the correct beliefs, abilities and qualities to make that a congruent and working strategy. Problem is if you are building inner game, you probably don't have that magic mix. A tennis player plays a perfect game because he has practised, honed and visiualised his technique and strategy perfectly, with the consultation of many professionals and the diet and excersise routine of a champion. It is the underlined qualities that allow him to perform naturally without thinking. You learnt how to do everything even walk and talk naturally by practising it, again and again and again. There is a distinct pattern here. Focus on your confidence. This can quickly become a double edged sword, a complete lack of confidence can ruin your game and in general will remove your smoothness and place you in a position where you are too self conscious. Not a great place to be pre or mid set, but something that I believe is neccesary for healthy development anyway. All to often (and this sounds crazy) people start becoming paranoid that they are not confident enough. Many people who start off not directly concerning themselves with inner game, end up developing stronger inner game as they focus themselves in a much more pro-active fashion and avoid the pitfalls of becoming dependant on their confidence levels. |
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| Author: | ~Finesse [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:32 am ] |
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I half agree with you, yet half don't. I would agree and say, learning 'inner game' and mindsets are completely useless if all you do is read them off of some website/forum or out of a book. A spiritual understanding that is not practised under fire is without value; only by applying our knowledge in trying situations do we come into genuine possession of it. That being said, it's all good reading a book and 'knowing' how to do/respond to something, but it is only when a situation that really tests us arises, that we are able to put it to use(or try). It is only then we know if we have been able to apply the knowledge we obtained. Now, taking all that into account. I strongly believe it's not going to do you much amount of good if you have no 'outer' skills. Outer skills are important, you need to know how to communicate and understand that shit. Now, why 'inner' shit is important, is because it can make a whole load of difference to how EASY it is to execute the outer stuff. Now, you can either achieve this confidence or 'ease' from becoming REALLY skilled at outer stuff... however, this is very long winded and your confidence becomes greatly dependant on external factors... Which means, if something goes wrong a few times, your confidence will hugely be affected. or You can change the way you think about the whole process, how you see 'rejections' how you see 'mistakes', and this makes the whole process of learning, practising, and executing 'outer' principles a lot easier if you start seeing things can only go 'right'. Also, this lack of 'fear' that 'things could go wrong', subtly effects a lot of outer things, especially your comfortableness in the situations, your body language, your smoothness, your mood, your vibe. All things that are a major factor in sucessful interactions. I hope you found my perspective interesting to read. Love ~Finesse |
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| Author: | Fin [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:15 pm ] |
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Quote: I half agree with you, yet half don't.
Thanks for replying finesse. I would agree and say, learning 'inner game' and mindsets are completely useless if all you do is read them off of some website/forum or out of a book. A spiritual understanding that is not practised under fire is without value; only by applying our knowledge in trying situations do we come into genuine possession of it. That being said, it's all good reading a book and 'knowing' how to do/respond to something, but it is only when a situation that really tests us arises, that we are able to put it to use(or try). It is only then we know if we have been able to apply the knowledge we obtained. Now, taking all that into account. I strongly believe it's not going to do you much amount of good if you have no 'outer' skills. Outer skills are important, you need to know how to communicate and understand that shit. Now, why 'inner' shit is important, is because it can make a whole load of difference to how EASY it is to execute the outer stuff. Now, you can either achieve this confidence or 'ease' from becoming REALLY skilled at outer stuff... however, this is very long winded and your confidence becomes greatly dependant on external factors... Which means, if something goes wrong a few times, your confidence will hugely be affected. or You can change the way you think about the whole process, how you see 'rejections' how you see 'mistakes', and this makes the whole process of learning, practising, and executing 'outer' principles a lot easier if you start seeing things can only go 'right'. Also, this lack of 'fear' that 'things could go wrong', subtly effects a lot of outer things, especially your comfortableness in the situations, your body language, your smoothness, your mood, your vibe. All things that are a major factor in sucessful interactions. I hope you found my perspective interesting to read. Love ~Finesse If confidence isn't based on achievement and attributes, then what is it based on? Where does it come from? The notion of self confidence seems to be a fairly moot point when we remove the things that are the primary tools when we define ourselves as people. While we are reframing, all these reframing behaviours are those of confident people who have already achieved through external methods. The problem that low confidence people have is not that they have their beliefs dependant on the physical things. But that they have in-accurate beliefs all together. |
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