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Author:  Don Juan 89 [ Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:12 am ]
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Just wondering- How many guys are actually really energetic and talkative while picking girls up? Is it a problem being kind of smooth and saying the right things?

Naturally I am not very talkative, I just try to say the right things otherwise if I try to talk more, it just becomes random talk. Some MPUAs say that you should be really energetic and talkative. Is it any less of an advantage if I talk less with more of a relaxed and confident vibe?
Author:  Jlax [ Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:20 am ]
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Id go with the relaxed anc confident vibe. Saying the right things at the right time will get you laid. Just talking alot is gonna get you nowhere. Your gonna be the entertainer instead of the seducer. But if your talking about topics that catch a girls attraction for you then go for it. But if its just random bull shit then itd be better if you dont talk. Having a smooth response to questions is a very good thing to do when trying to increase attraction for women.

The girls are gonna start to think of you as mysterious and will be drawn to that. They will want to get more of you. I personally realized when im just real chill and not trying to talk for no reason that girls are actually alot more and I mean alot more drawn to me rahter than when im talking nonstop. It gets annoying and is unnattractive. You gotta play shit off with your body language. If you come off as the guy whos just chilling, saying shit at the right time while not being too talkative, and has powerful and strong body language then your gonna be far more attractive than the guyu who just talks to get everyones attention and is in need of it.

The less talking the better. If your a really funny guy though then keep talking because humor alone can get you laid. But if your not that funny than just chill back and be the alpha. Make it seem like you know that your comfortable in your own skin without the attention of women. his alone will draw them to you.
Author:  happiness [ Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:27 am ]
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Usually I run my mouth of as fast as I can whilst I'm opening (still being clear, but fitting as much in as I can) just to get a conversation rolling, the further through I go the more I slow down. Although it really depends on where I am and the judgements I've made on the set.
Author:  Daytime artist [ Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:21 am ]
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Saying the right things at the right time will get you laid. Just talking alot is gonna get you nowhere. Your gonna be the entertainer instead of the seducer.
This.

I'm sure the motormouth technique must work for some people but personally I think it sends a nervous, desperate vibe. And you risk coming across as camp rather than alpha male.
Author:  ~Finesse [ Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:48 pm ]
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Don't talk much, listen, encourage others to speak.


Unless you're bantering make it 50/50 ... I tend to play off the things others say. And I do it well.
Author:  Don Juan 89 [ Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:15 pm ]
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Thanks. I was just a little confused on this considering that some pick up artists say to be excited and really enthusiastic. I found that unnecessary though.
Author:  Deadeyexx [ Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:25 pm ]
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This is an in-depth question if you think about it. While I agree with many of the previous posters about listening more, this concept can be confusing for someone a little "too quiet".

You must be talkative enough to carry a conversation. Thinking to yourself about the perfect thing to say at the right time will NOT get you laid. Think about the 3 second rule and why it's so important.

Of the two extremes, one being the guy who won't shut up and the other being so quiet he becomes invisible, the loudmouth is definately the better one to be. He at least has enough energy to work with.
Author:  shagitnbagit [ Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:53 pm ]
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This is an in-depth question if you think about it. While I agree with many of the previous posters about listening more, this concept can be confusing for someone a little "too quiet".

You must be talkative enough to carry a conversation. Thinking to yourself about the perfect thing to say at the right time will NOT get you laid. Think about the 3 second rule and why it's so important.

Of the two extremes, one being the guy who won't shut up and the other being so quiet he becomes invisible, the loudmouth is definately the better one to be. He at least has enough energy to work with.
You can carry a conversation without being energetic. This way you are portrayed as that confident, cool guy, who can have a good time.
Women LOVE talking about themselves, so avoid some questions about yourself, and let her do most the talking.
-Shagitnbagit
Author:  Don Juan 89 [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:05 am ]
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I was just referring to what shagit was speaking about. More of a less energetic personality.

I was speaking about a personality similar to gambler's smooth personality in comparison to someone who is very energetic, like Adam Lyons.
Author:  Chief [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:39 am ]
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Stylistic choice.
Author:  jurupa [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is being smooth and less talkative a problem?
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Just wondering- How many guys are actually really energetic and talkative while picking girls up? Is it a problem being kind of smooth and saying the right things?

Naturally I am not very talkative, I just try to say the right things otherwise if I try to talk more, it just becomes random talk. Some MPUAs say that you should be really energetic and talkative. Is it any less of an advantage if I talk less with more of a relaxed and confident vibe?
This is really no different than the debate on direct v indirect. Both will take you to the same ending point. You just get there by different ways/routes. Personally I say on this a middle ground is best. As you don't want to talk to little, but at the same time you don't want to talk to much either. But this is generally speaking as conversation dynamics are going to be different with each person you talk too.
Author:  jurupa [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:21 am ]
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You can carry a conversation without being energetic. This way you are portrayed as that confident, cool guy, who can have a good time.
Women LOVE talking about themselves, so avoid some questions about yourself, and let her do most the talking.
-Shagitnbagit
This is assuming the girl is a talker and not shy or just not talkative.
Author:  ~Finesse [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:53 pm ]
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You can carry a conversation without being energetic. This way you are portrayed as that confident, cool guy, who can have a good time.
Women LOVE talking about themselves, so avoid some questions about yourself, and let her do most the talking.
-Shagitnbagit
This is assuming the girl is a talker and not shy or just not talkative.
Even shy girls will talk tonnes about themself, if they're not, you're not doing it right.
Author:  jurupa [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:41 pm ]
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You can carry a conversation without being energetic. This way you are portrayed as that confident, cool guy, who can have a good time.
Women LOVE talking about themselves, so avoid some questions about yourself, and let her do most the talking.
-Shagitnbagit
This is assuming the girl is a talker and not shy or just not talkative.
Even shy girls will talk tonnes about themself, if they're not, you're not doing it right.
True, but you have to work on them to get to that point, so in the start you are going to have to be the talkative one.
Author:  zqawsxedcrfvtbgynhuj [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:13 am ]
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Cheifelberry's got it right... Stylistic Choice...

That said it's a rather loaded question.

First instinct is to say "Don't motor-mouth if it's not naturally you". But that'll be misinterpreted without a doubt. And forcing yourself to become comfortable with people is a substantial part of progressing as a PUA (i.e. social anxiety...).

You're at no less of a disadvantage if that's the style you work best with. I know if I try just talking to keep silence minimal, I look like an idiot. I know guys who also have the most interesting stories in the world, AND (this is key) the ability to tell them in an interesting manner.

Look around, there's material for both ends of the spectrum, and everything in between. Find what works best for you, and eventually you'll mold it into your own.

After all... we're not trying to become clones here :P
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