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| Author: | AFC Royal [ Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:11 pm ] |
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Ok, I know we recently had a debate about the term "AMOG", but I feel this is a little different. Many guys seem to be under the impression that when someone else is trying to prove themselves as the AMOG, you have to go out on the attack, and make them look stupid, or try and get them to DLV themselves. I don't get this. Why do we need to be assholes like that to other people? You barely know them-- why do you want to bring them down so bad? Is it worth degrading your fellow men just for a girl? Answer: No, it isn't. If you try and downgrade other guys, they just get resentful, and it introduces negative energy into an interaction. Additionally, this mentality gets you thinking along the lines of paranoia: everyone starts looking out for people trying to be AMOG's, and sees them as enemies. Here's the big difference in the way I AMOG: I don't lower other peoples' value, I raise my own. This ties into my tagline: "Don't hate, just dominate". When I refer to "dominate", you don't have to dominate anyone. I could just have easily said, "be awesome" as opposed to "dominate", but dominate rhymed. In any case, here's the point: don't lower the value of other people, raise your own. Don't hate on them, just raise your own value. This is so much better for everyone. If you lower another person's value, you just make him resentful. If you see him as an obstacle, if he wasn't before, he will become an obstacle. You just create problems for yourself. When you see him as a friend, then he will likely act more friendly. If you prove that you have really high value, and you are friendly, most likely he will simply defer to you, and in the future you will have someone who you could hang out with. This whole idea relates to other things in pickup: instead of putting in negative energy into a system, like misogyny, paranoia, and jealousy: put in positive emotions that accomplish the same thing: love, acceptance, and pride. Peace. |
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| Author: | Jav [ Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:07 pm ] |
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Good thread, The whole point of AMOG'ing is to shift you into being the person with the highest value. You let the other guy follow you, invite him into your little party. "ahaha, man you're cool" You're giving the guy value, because you already have enough. get it, get it? Sharing is better than taking. |
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| Author: | Ezo [ Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:36 pm ] |
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Quote: Many guys seem to be under the impression that when someone else is trying to prove themselves as the AMOG, you have to go out on the attack, and make them look stupid, or try and get them to DLV themselves.
Yes yes to Obi-Wan you listen! Jav/Vaj/Ajv/Jva/Vja is right. Sharing is caring but in the case of an AMOG sharing is also showing dominance. A true alpha male doesnt need to go into an AMOG battle, he has already won.
I don't get this. |
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| Author: | Taos Lust [ Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:52 am ] |
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I actually really like this post, it has really opened my eyes. For awhile I thought I had to shoot back at guys when they shoot at me, but if I could in some way mold the conversation to my liking then I can completely change that SPAM. I think this works in like 90% of the these situations, but what happens in the 10% of situations it doesn't work? Where the guy is really determined, and keeps blasting you regardless of how friendly you try to be to him? You must obviously in that situation devalue him enough to make him shut up and move one, but that is tough for me to just come up with a snappy comeback. I've never personally had that skill, and I don't quite know how to practice getting it. |
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| Author: | Jav [ Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:49 am ] |
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Quote: I actually really like this post, it has really opened my eyes. For awhile I thought I had to shoot back at guys when they shoot at me, but if I could in some way mold the conversation to my liking then I can completely change that SPAM. I think this works in like 90% of the these situations, but what happens in the 10% of situations it doesn't work? Where the guy is really determined, and keeps blasting you regardless of how friendly you try to be to him? You must obviously in that situation devalue him enough to make him shut up and move one, but that is tough for me to just come up with a snappy comeback. I've never personally had that skill, and I don't quite know how to practice getting it.
Just smile.
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| Author: | AFC Royal [ Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:25 pm ] |
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What Jav said. Either smile, or just start ignoring him. Anyone else there will clearly see that the guy is being a complete asshole, and will just turn on him, since you are bringing the fun, and he is bringing negative energy. |
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| Author: | Chicoman69 [ Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:21 pm ] |
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As males, it's in our nature to compete but violence in public is almost always bad news. In my experience, it is far better to make friends than have the cops show up. With that said, I think it is important to have some basic knowledge of self-defense if shit does escalate. Think of yourself as a social bomb diffuser. Sure, girls get wet for violent AMOG activity sometimes, but why risk it? You need to learn to be skilled both physically and verbally at calming situations down before they blow up in your face. Some guy steps on your toe in a crowded party? Let it go man. Some of the most bitter of frenemies get into fisticuffs and end up swilling beers together and shouting songs of "I love you man" afterwards. -Chicoman |
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| Author: | secondd [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:33 pm ] |
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I still learning AMOG |
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| Author: | ShadoWSlash [ Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:06 pm ] |
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When other people try to bring you down/ do not respect your value, what is the best thing to do? |
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| Author: | ~Finesse [ Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:49 am ] |
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Quote: When other people try to bring you down/ do not respect your value, what is the best thing to do?
Remind yourself of how threatened by and insecure of your presence they are.If you have a comeback already in your mind (NOT pre-thought), then say it. But be pre-pared for a re-comeback. Either way, don't be bothered by it. Just roll your eyes(or not) and maintain your composure. Allow people to have their fun. This makes you "amog". You're leading but passively. Don't have to be forceful and clunky and agressive to be the "amog". |
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