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Author:  Risen [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:56 am ]
Post subject:  How to deal with AFC vulchers?
I'm sure a lot of guys on this forum has probably gone through this is some way, shape, or form. As a pua, or at least an aspiring one, we are more ready to talk to attractive women.

Let's face it, most of us have AFC friends would are dam afraid of approaching hotties. However, after a lot of practice and self-confidence, I have no real issue having a nice talk and making friends with a random HB 7+.

My issue here is that once I do all the hard work to meet and get to know a HB, my AFC friends try to use me to get to her. They try to steal the thunder and hit on her blatantly. My questions is how do you guys deal with this? How should I act so that I am still dominant without seeming jealous? Should I point out the fact that these guys are all hitting on her, whereas I am not, at least not as blatantly? Once AFCs have an opening they just go in no matter what. That's why I can't wing with some of my buddies lol.

It's happened to me a few times and I'm fed up. I just started a job at a new office and chatted up the hot girl everyone knows today after work. Once guys see that I'm talking with her, I can already see them coming up and just introducing themselves to her...so, what should I do?

P.S. I understand the whole office romance drama, but that's not the main point here :)
Author:  samex [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:51 am ]
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Hey Risen,

Up until 1954 no one was ever able to run the mile in under 4 minutes. Once that record was broken by Roger Banister, all of sudden several athletes completed the mile in under 4 minutes. What Roger Banister did was show that it can be done.

When Risen goes and talks to beautiful girls, you are showing other guys that its ok to talk to beautiful women. It is natural for other guys to follow and come into the conversations.

What separates you from them is that you lead, and they FOLLOWED.

Understand that when they come into YOUR conversation, you are the leader. You have proven that you are leader by setting the example.

How fun would soccer be if you could just take the ball and run to the other side and score without any one challenging you. Not very fun at all.
These guys who are giving you difficulty are only trying to bring out a better, stronger Risen.

Trust yourself my friend, you capabilities are stronger then you think.
Author:  YoungmPUA [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:56 am ]
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I had the same problem with my friends. So my solution became to ditch those people, because doing that is lame!

But, I wish there was a way to game through those situations and teach my friend there, a thing or two.
Author:  AFC Royal [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:40 am ]
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There's a simple solution. Either they shape up, or don't go out with you.

They're not real friends if they don't respect the boundaries you lay down.
Author:  jurupa [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:54 pm ]
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I usually use a hot rod iron on them. But seriously when it is appropriate I tell them whats up and how uncool it is. And if they keep it up I either stop gaming girls around them or don't go out with them.
Author:  jazestix [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:02 pm ]
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agree with most. tried to explain a few rules, at which he laughed at. and then tried gaming my targets after i opened all the sets and accomplishment intro-ed him. on top of that, he tried amog techniques on me (he failed).

on our way to next bar, i explained not cool, and as wings we need to help each other. same thing there. i don't mind so of going out with someone that is afraid of approach (to an extent), but to laugh at the basic rules, and then go against proper social etiquette...ehh...i'd rather game alone, then deal with that.
Author:  zappo [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:14 pm ]
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Simple option is to dump them
But their your mates at the end of the day and you cant just do that
They will learn eventually

Besides from learning a different language and chatting up foreign girls so your mates cant talk to them but you could explain to them that if they keep on doing what they are doing in your sets you going to make them look like a tool infront of Girls.

1.Everything your mates say just respond with " thats cute"

2. Or " you do realize your coming off as the creepy guy infront of theese girls ".

3. after he says something cringe worthy afc reply with " had a drink have we" ( suggesting hes drunk)

All theese things i have mentioned will put your mate down without you actually being mean to him and sparking a few laughs in set
Author:  Cappi [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:24 pm ]
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Just ran into this problem with a guy who was rolling with me last night. Pretty much everything he said just dlv'd the fuck out of us. The best way to deal with this is to either teach your friend game, or just not cruise with him when you're out to meet girls.
Author:  johnchangmai [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:47 pm ]
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ha ha ha.

I had to put up with this for years when i was young.

If you have mates that are AFC etc when you start opening up sets it is only natural for them to steal your power or girl or do what ever it is to try and win her for themselfs.

Eventually you will.

A. BLOW THEM OUT.

B. GIVE UP HITTING ON CHICKS WHEN THEY ARE AROUND.

C. PUT UP WITH IT.

D. TELL THEM GAME AND TRY AND TRAIN THEM. WON'T WORK TRUST ME.

E. MAKE NEW FRIENDS FOR PULLING WOMEN, AND GO OUT WITH THE OLD FRIENDS ON A DIFFERENT NIGHT. MOST LIKELY OUTCOME.

Don't read in to this to much.

Just do E.
Author:  trixsta [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:27 pm ]
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Quote:
Simple option is to dump them
But their your mates at the end of the day and you cant just do that
They will learn eventually

Besides from learning a different language and chatting up foreign girls so your mates cant talk to them but you could explain to them that if they keep on doing what they are doing in your sets you going to make them look like a tool infront of Girls.

1.Everything your mates say just respond with " thats cute"

2. Or " you do realize your coming off as the creepy guy infront of theese girls ".

3. after he says something cringe worthy afc reply with " had a drink have we" ( suggesting hes drunk)

All theese things i have mentioned will put your mate down without you actually being mean to him and sparking a few laughs in set
Yeah... not so sure those things would work. Girl notices you're trying to get laughs at your mate's expense, and make you look like a desperate showoff, whether you are or not.

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I normally let them try and fail. They realise that you have better things to do than talk to girls and they remember this if they're not too drunk (it's a gamble). Has worked several times for me though.
Author:  zappo [ Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:17 am ]
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Quote:
Quote:
Simple option is to dump them
But their your mates at the end of the day and you cant just do that
They will learn eventually

Besides from learning a different language and chatting up foreign girls so your mates cant talk to them but you could explain to them that if they keep on doing what they are doing in your sets you going to make them look like a tool infront of Girls.

1.Everything your mates say just respond with " thats cute"

2. Or " you do realize your coming off as the creepy guy infront of theese girls ".

3. after he says something cringe worthy afc reply with " had a drink have we" ( suggesting hes drunk)

All theese things i have mentioned will put your mate down without you actually being mean to him and sparking a few laughs in set
Yeah... not so sure those things would work. Girl notices you're trying to get laughs at your mate's expense, and make you look like a desperate showoff, whether you are or not.
I wouldnt necessarily say that . Its very suttle . Many guys do this all the time infront of their mates no matter what circumstance . What other options does he have if he roles with theese guys . Theese responses would make him a) over react or b) shut the hell up . If they choose a) then you tell them to cool it and work game .... its what normal guys do its what girls expect.
Author:  Herne [ Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:20 am ]
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dont go sarging with these guys around--meet them for a beer by all means but just dont take them with you when your full metal jacket
Author:  TkoKing [ Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:35 am ]
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Prove you are the AMOG and they just follow you.
Author:  trixsta [ Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:45 am ]
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Quote:
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Simple option is to dump them
But their your mates at the end of the day and you cant just do that
They will learn eventually

Besides from learning a different language and chatting up foreign girls so your mates cant talk to them but you could explain to them that if they keep on doing what they are doing in your sets you going to make them look like a tool infront of Girls.

1.Everything your mates say just respond with " thats cute"

2. Or " you do realize your coming off as the creepy guy infront of theese girls ".

3. after he says something cringe worthy afc reply with " had a drink have we" ( suggesting hes drunk)

All theese things i have mentioned will put your mate down without you actually being mean to him and sparking a few laughs in set
Yeah... not so sure those things would work. Girl notices you're trying to get laughs at your mate's expense, and make you look like a desperate showoff, whether you are or not.
I wouldnt necessarily say that . Its very suttle . Many guys do this all the time infront of their mates no matter what circumstance . What other options does he have if he roles with theese guys . Theese responses would make him a) over react or b) shut the hell up . If they choose a) then you tell them to cool it and work game .... its what normal guys do its what girls expect.
Girls do actually pick up on these things, maybe not all but in my experience an amount that would mean this is not the route I'd take.

Best course for me is to say: "Ok jimmy, look after this girl for me yeah, I need to go and get another drink".

Then don't return until you can see he's clearly failed or is not even with her anymore, then go up and say "where's jimmy at then? Scared him off? (jokingly)" and go as normal.
Author:  cerebralassassin [ Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:32 pm ]
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AMOG them!!!!!! if when your friends try to butt in to your conversation whilst in set try saying something like this 'you know that shirt makes you look like james bond' or 'you look too rigid there lighten up' they'll stop doing it
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