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Author:  David~ [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:23 am ]
Post subject:  Read books to get laid - Awesome idea
If you're reading books to get laid, it won't work.

Let me repeat that.

IF YOU'RE READING A BOOK TO LEARN HOW TO FUCK A GIRL, IT WILL NOT WORK OR SOLVE ANYTHING.

Wearing a duct tape suit and dancing like an ass clown will probably give you higher chances.
Author:  DanReborn [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:46 am ]
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What?!
i think you will find that once upon a time there was a man by the name of niel strauss, and he wrote a book called The Game, the result of reading such a book = countless sexual encounters with many hot women.
You sir, are talking shit.
Author:  Jlax [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:52 am ]
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If there was a "Like" button on this forum then I would "Like" Danreborns response. I second that. Please though elaborate more on how books arent gonna help you get laid. Please elaborate a little more on what your trying to say.
Author:  David~ [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:51 am ]
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Say this out loud

"I read books to try and get laid".
Author:  Buz [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Read books to get laid - Awesome idea
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If you're reading books to get laid, it won't work.

Let me repeat that.

IF YOU'RE READING A BOOK TO LEARN HOW TO FUCK A GIRL, IT WILL NOT WORK OR SOLVE ANYTHING.

Wearing a duct tape suit and dancing like an ass clown will probably give you higher chances.
thats called peacocking it's in the mystery method book.
Author:  Brendan [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:32 pm ]
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Reading books on how to get laid will not get you laid.... unless you actually do what the book says and go out and meet women, which a lot of you do not do.

But David~, please expand as I don't quite understand what you're getting at.
Author:  Buz [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:38 pm ]
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Reading books on how to get laid will not get you laid.... unless you actually do what the book says and go out and meet women, which a lot of you do not do.

But David~, please expand as I don't quite understand what you're getting at.
got point, reading "how to paint still life" will not make you an artist unless you pick up a brush :)
Author:  JXDX [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:53 pm ]
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Agreed. I think you should read a book on a certain subject after you go out and experience some shit for yourself. Books are good if used correctly. For example:

You practice PU for a month, then read a book on PU. You'll be able to relate to certain concepts much easier because you've already experienced them. You'll also retain the knowledge much more solid and can apply it better in the future. Books are great tools of learning, but they are no substitute to experience.
Author:  Mind Hacker [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:46 pm ]
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I don't agree David~.

Yeah, a book by itself won't get anyone laid.

But some guys are just CLUELESS when it comes to social interactions.

And then that's when the book is handy.

Some guys have no clue on how to escalate without being creepy.

But it's also true that overload of material without going out actually hurts the chances of getting laid.

My 2 cents.
Author:  Onoma [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Read books to get laid - Awesome idea
Quote:
If you're reading books to get laid, it won't work.

Let me repeat that.

IF YOU'RE READING A BOOK TO LEARN HOW TO FUCK A GIRL, IT WILL NOT WORK OR SOLVE ANYTHING.

Wearing a duct tape suit and dancing like an ass clown will probably give you higher chances.
Why don't you go build a rocket without ever reading any books, and see how far you get.
Author:  Little Panda [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:08 pm ]
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Books, alone, will NOT get you laid. Sorry, that's a fact. Go cry in a corner if you disagree.

However, books will give you a certain guideline so to speak. You will know HOW to get started and you will know HOW to get laid. But you won't GET laid until you put it all into practise and train yourself with the material over and over and over and over again, until you succeed.

But I can also agree with the others here, to a certain extent.

Books DO get you laid - in the long run, because they were the ones providing you with the necessary information from the start.

So there's 2 ways of looking at this.

Therefore, David, be clear the next time you put an opinion of such matter, because in my eyes: Everybody's right in this thread since you weren't clear in your point.
Author:  Spark89 [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:27 pm ]
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Books = the theory/lectures

In field = the practical

To get the degree you must attend both lectures and practicals.

You need the knowledge (books) to be able to succeed in the field (pracitcal), but books alone wont get the best degree around and in the case of PUA just reading books will get you nowhere!

Spark- the fountain of pointless points!
Author:  AFC Royal [ Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:17 am ]
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I think people nailed it already, but I'll say it again, and shorter.

Books alone will not get you laid, because nothing works as planned.

Plus, it's only field experience that improves inner game.
Author:  David~ [ Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:40 am ]
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Lets take a step back and listen to everyones argument. I understand the brevity of my post, but its a bitch to type on an iPhone.

So lets take your practice into in example. Build a rocketship without reading a book. Well for starters, the nature of the textbook I read to build my rocketship, will most likely be written by no more than at least a dozen doctorates in engineering.

I am trying to emphasis the point on how ludacris it is to absorb knowledge from self-proclaimed "experts". The nature of these books are mostly marketing and business. Of course, the audience of this thread will most likely be dissuaded by my points.

As one member mentioned, its mystery methods peacocking that will get you laid.

Others argue that they give you the tools you need.

One had a semi articulate answer, and said the theory is from books and the practice comes after.

Do none of you have the belief that because you are a man, with two balls and cock is merely enough reason to get laid?

I carry no judgement to those who disagree with me, however it seems the majority heavily rely on books as a crutch to gain success from women.

Is it possible, that maybe, just like the self proclaimed "gurus" who wrote these books--by going out and experimenting with social situations, maybe you could go out and do the same? They did not have books to read.

Hopefully this thread will lead into a more mature discussion instead of blind opinionated answers.
Author:  madals [ Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:11 am ]
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Is it possible, that maybe, just like the self proclaimed "gurus" who wrote these books--by going out and experimenting with social situations, maybe you could go out and do the same? They did not have books to read
Going to respond to this using your own example-
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So lets take your practice into in example. Build a rocketship without reading a book. Well for starters, the nature of the textbook I read to build my rocketship, will most likely be written by no more than at least a dozen doctorates in engineering.
The first engineers who build a rocketship would have done it from their own invention and thought to create something new and brilliant. HOWEVER, they would have read physics books containing idea's thought of by people who probably couldn't even imagine what a space shuttle would be like!

However, those books gave the engineers the base principles they needed to carry the idea further.

A lot of guys who come to this forum really don't know where to start - they are unable to set realistic targets in their life to achieve.
They see it as this:
I am currently I lonely loser -----> I am now a sexual active player with an awesome social life.

They don't factor in any middle steps, they don't know how to achieve it since they have no past evidence to work on.
Books are not the optimum way of learning social skills though, I learnt mainly from growing up and seeing how other people interacted and doing my own things based on what I had observed and seeing the results.
Lots of children won't do that though for whatever reason and therefore won't learn the base skills.

What a PUA book offers in my opinion is a 60/40 split of placebo/real help. However, just because 60% is placebo doesn't mean it is bad - people believing that it will work or they have found the secret will cause them to put across lots of non-verbal signals that will make them attractive!

Sure, lots of the things in PUA books are obvious to me ("kino" - ofc you need to touch a woman to get into bed with her and ofc you have to build it up steadily not just jump in) - but to a lot of people that really isn't obvious!

But the people who actually read a book and then get out and do it then gain 1st hand experience of what works!

Another example of this working in another way is with sports coaching:
A coach can tell me how to shoot a basketball, but the first time I do it I probably wont be that great. I have to keep doing it again and again to get my own experience of it and learn the fine details that are specific to how I do it. However, if nobody told me (or if I never saw) someone shoot a basketball would my technique be anything like what works best? Maybe after a long time...

Madals

p.s. All of my discussion points revolve around the basis that the person who reads a book actually gets off their ass and tries it. People who don't get out and do it have the same chance of success with or without a book (0% chance).

p.p.s - Please keep the discussion civilised and try not to re-post what has already been said without adding to it.
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