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Author:  johnchangmai [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:05 pm ]
Post subject:  How To get the perfect 10

Your perfect 10 is the prize.

You have to win her.

Victory is brought about by STRATERGY not BRAVERY.

The bravest tiger is FIRST KILLED.

The end.

Author:  Warped Mindless [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How To get the perfect 10

Quote:
Your perfect 10 is the prize.

You have to win her.

Victory is brought about by STRATERGY not BRAVERY.

The bravest tiger is FIRST KILLED.

The end.
No such thing as a perfect 10

Victory of anything is both stragety and bravery

A girl wants to chase and win the guy, not be chased and won

The end.

Author:  AFC Royal [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:45 pm ]
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Quote:
Your perfect 10 is the prize.


No, YOU are the prize.
Quote:
You have to win her.
No, you don't. Why do you need HER?
Quote:
Victory is brought about by STRATERGY not BRAVERY.
Both are helpful. But you need a hell of a lot of bravery, so I wouldn't discount it.
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The bravest tiger is FIRST KILLED.
What's that supposed to mean? As in, what do you mean by it in this context? If you're trying to prove why bravery is stupid, then that's a poor analogy. The women LOVE the bravest tiger, the nail that sticks up, the AMOG, the leader of the pack. They will go for other guys as well, true, but these kinds of guys are highly desired.

Now. I would say your mindset is DEFINITELY not where it needs to be to seduce a perfect 10. Neither is mine, admittedly, but let's first recognize that we all have some work to do, okay?

Author:  johnchangmai [ Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:51 pm ]
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Ha Ha

Thread bashing eh.

Well lets think about this.
All the talk on this site about You are the PRIZE is total bullshit.

This leads to EGO overload and i'm better than you scenario.
Wrong.
Eventually you turn in to an arsehole.

If you believe and you are a person of value, values etc you don't need this mindset or care what other people think.

The thread is not about WHY you need a Pretty women.
The thread is not about why i need, or want one.
And as for reverse engineering an answer to make yourself look clever is totally laughable.


The statement about WINNING her is also obvious.
life is about winning and loosing, no difference.
And as for the attack on bravery which is not mentioned in my thread but your reply i suggest.
Read the statement again.

Its obvious

As is the last part.

In reply to warped.

My choice of words not yours.
No you are wrong in relation to my statement.And the why do you need her part.
Answering a question like with a double meaning answer is pointless in relation to my brief statement.

My thread is not about needing a ten. You are answering the wrong question.
Your initial no would have been o.k. if thats what you believe.

The 10 wants to chase guys.

Well i wonder what everybody else thinks of that.
Totally unrelated to my thread in its context.
If you can get the most beautifull women to chase you.
Good for you.

You did not answer my last point so i assume you did not understand it.

Author:  AFC Royal [ Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:28 pm ]
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Quote:
All the talk on this site about You are the PRIZE is total bullshit.

This leads to EGO overload and i'm better than you scenario.
Wrong.
Eventually you turn in to an arsehole.
It can, but only if you take it to an extreme. Anything taken to an extreme, however, is bad, so why discuss that point?
Quote:
If you believe and you are a person of value, values etc you don't need this mindset or care what other people think.
If you believe you are a person of value, you HAVE this mindset.
Quote:
The thread is not about WHY you need a Pretty women.
The thread is not about why i need, or want one.
And as for reverse engineering an answer to make yourself look clever is totally laughable.
I don't get where I did the reverse engineering. And I am also not answering the "why you need one" question, so I think we simply have a disconnect.
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The statement about WINNING her is also obvious.
life is about winning and loosing, no difference.
And as for the attack on bravery which is not mentioned in my thread but your reply i suggest.
Read the statement again.
I don't see how your statement could be interpreted in any other way as to disparage bravery. I have read it several times now. You will have to explain what you mean.

Author:  David~ [ Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:59 pm ]
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this thread should be deleted/locked/banned

Author:  ~Finesse [ Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:35 pm ]
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You are NOT the prize.

She is NOT the prize.



The prize is the connection that you will both be pleasured to have formed.



It's a mutual prize.






.peace

~Finesse

Author:  David~ [ Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:37 pm ]
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this thread is not healthy.

finnesse makes it a little bit better though lol.

Author:  johnchangmai [ Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:44 pm ]
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David

Why.

David

Your second reply is Unhealthy.

You give no explanation, but you believe my thread should be locked, deleted or eaten etc.
No reason at all.

On that basis perhaps you should only answer threads where you have something to contribute.

Finesse
Finesse.

Finesse shows finesse.

If my statement read The top 2 lines only.
Your answer would surfice

Author:  ~Finesse [ Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How To get the perfect 10

Quote:
Finesse
Finesse.

Finesse shows finesse.

If my statement read The top 2 lines only.
Your answer would surfice
Okay...


Quote:
Your perfect 10 is the prize.

You have to win her.

Victory is brought about by STRATERGY not BRAVERY.

The bravest tiger is FIRST KILLED.

The end.
You are NOT the prize.

She is NOT the prize.



The prize is the connection that you will both be pleasured to have formed.



It's a mutual prize.


You don't need strategy, this isn't warfare, she isn't the enemy.


The bravest tiger won't be killed first, this isn't about hunting nor fighting.


Go learn Tai Chi, you'll then learn how to 'game'.



.peace

Author:  AFC Royal [ Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:10 pm ]
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Yeah, I def love you too much finesse.

Probs because I love Aikido, which is really close to Tai Chi, and I carry my Aikido philosophy over into some aspects of pickup...

Author:  David~ [ Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How To get the perfect 10

no problem buddy. i will clarify things a bit so you understand my perspective.

Quote:
Your perfect 10 is the prize.


no problem buddy. i will clarify things a bit so you understand my perspective.

You have to win her.

Victory is brought about by STRATERGY not BRAVERY.

The bravest tiger is FIRST KILLED.

The end.


victory implies the mindset that there is a "war against women". this is unhealthy.

getting women is not strategy nor should the interaction be planned. this is also unhealthy.

i understand your eagerness and motivation, but i don't agree with these archaic community doctrines, as the community has moved past this whole
"10" nonsense.
so you see, none of it is really psychologically helpful to anyone.
hit me back if you have any questions.

Author:  johnchangmai [ Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:44 pm ]
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David and Finesse.

Thanks for your reply.


I will answer David first.

Victory implies a mindset that there is a "war against women".
Your statement.
Simply put i believe victory is about WINNING.
I am really struggling to find where you got this from out of the thread about a war on women.
If i figure it out clearly i will respond honesty to you what i believe. right or wrong.

This 10 nonsense.

Yes Yes I UNDERSTAND.

But you have to agree most guys will always want the pretty girl.
Lets not get to ZEN on this point.
And don't lecture me about the COMMUNITY like you know all of them personally and understand how the community has moved on.
The community is responsable for a lot of damage done by people to people all in the name of PUA.

It is a brief statement with my choice or words that if re-phrased would get a whole different set of answers.

Well i have to admit that the tread may not be usefull to the majority on this site.
But on the other hand depending on what answers i get it may throw new light on things, not by me , maybe by others.


Finesse

You have correctly identified that the statement is military in its context.
And obviously not best suited perhaps on this forum.

But im not so sure.

The whole managment training industry is now based on teaching people to be ALPHA.
Imposters.

A lot of PUA'S now teach power management. Ross jeffries failed students that now think that by teaching alpha man shit to middle management geeks on 2 week courses to try and control people.
Useless PUa's that now teach men and women how to be better managers.
Or alpha. That is all they teach.

Bull shit.

Anything and everthing should be debated on this forum to a degree.

Before you give yourself a pat on the back all ZEN like lets just take a minute to see how a brief military statement can be used on this site.

Outcome independant.

This basically means your chances of success with women will increase if you don't get blah blah etc etc.
What a waste of fucking time.

I am a man and i will have what i want. fuck that shit.

If i decide i want a very beautiful women.....................

If If If.

And yet again don't go zen on me here.

The military uses technology (ross jeffries) and all types of methods to achieve its goals.

Their use of stratergy as can be clearly seen by the outcome of various victories and defeats in wars is plain for everyone to see.

In answer to my own statement.

What works well for war could be adapted for women.

And finally.

Finesse. I am very well versed in asian culture espessialy TAI CHI.
Try reading a few military books in reply to your advice that tai chi will help my game.

David. War on women........ Hrmmm.
Maybe others think like you do about the tread.

This is not the case or my thinking, but that is not to say others see it that way.

Author:  David~ [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:00 am ]
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i'm sorry but you have me lost.

firstly, i do not know what "zen" is per se. secondly, how is war and women even correlated? and i don't quite understand this whole ross jeffries thing either. all the information i have on the guy is that he's old, wears glasses, and is quite creepy.

i understand the overall gist of your post, but it is difficult for me to get your points.

so far, all i can get out of it is:
1. you're slightly angry
2. you're really driven
3. your chinese
4. you're influenced by RSD.

lol.

Author:  ~Finesse [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:42 pm ]
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Quote:
i'm sorry but you have me lost.
so far, all i can get out of it is:
1. you're slightly angry
2. you're really driven
3. your chinese
4. you're influenced by RSD.

lol.
Lolol.












John.

Do you know about desire and desirelessness? I don't feel you do, else you would understand outcome dependancy and it's opposite correctly.

If I want to have sex with a girl, i'll put everything place to make that happen. I won't become so obsessed with each step of the process to the point it actually effects the process negatively. Dwelling so much on things having to happen in an exact matter with military precision becoming so focussed on pointless stuff that all the important things suffer dramatically... such as fluidity, spontanaeity and naturalness.

I see you like your vision of seduction and dating to be like some kind of military planned computer game mission, have fun with that. Don't forget to pack your x-box controller when you go 'sarge'.

P.S. I dare you to run down a flight of stairs quickly paying attention to every step. You'll more than likely fall.


peace

~Finesse

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