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Author:  nermob [ Mon May 17, 2010 6:13 am ]
Post subject:  HB Pretends Disinterest
I was standing in line at the grocery store right behind a tiny smokin' little latina, a solid HB9 that you'd just want to strip naked and manhandle, putting her into every delicious position you can think of....

So, I started doing my sarge thing, talking it up with everyone in the line. Everyone was conversing and having a good time while we waited for somebody to do a price check for the cashier. I felt a pretty good response from everybody....

BUT! No matter what I did or where I moved, the HB9 always turned her back to me. It surprised me because several times when she thought I wasn't looking, she just couldn't keep her eyes off me. You know. That vibe you get when you KNOW a girl is into you. But whenever I turned toward to face her direction or talk to her, she'd turn and go to her phone, txting or whatever, and one time answering her phone to say "yeah i'm in line. i'll be out in a sec." She was deliberately BLOCKING ME!

THE REASON that she was blocking me is that some douchy-looking guy (I found out later while in the parking lot) was in a car waiting for her outside. And he was the one calling her (I assume) over and over again. But a MASTER pick-up artist would have been able to adapt to the situation and at least number closed. Alas, I am no master....

Does anybody have any tips on how I could have opened her? I normally am pretty decent at engaging people in conversation during daygame, but for some reason this situation just stumped me.
Author:  Charlatan [ Mon May 17, 2010 12:41 pm ]
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I dunno if the guy was totally "the reason" she was blocking you. Sounds like classic proximity alert. If she was uninterested in you she'd have no reason to avoid you, even if she has a guy, because what does some uninteresting guy matter?

Did you ever actually say/do anything directly to her? Or were you waiting for her to open you because you were chatting up everybody else?
Author:  nermob [ Mon May 17, 2010 6:24 pm ]
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"Proximity Alert"... I was not familiar with that term as a definition for that "vibe" feeling, so I had to look it up lol. And yes, you are absolutely right. The actual effort that she made to avoid me as I DHV'd, that is what told me that she at least felt something other than indifference, which is always good :)

Now, in regards to my technique. This occurrence has revealed a weakness in it. I DID NOT open her directly, only as part of the group. But let me explain. For day game, my approaches are a modified version of Mystery's A1, A2, A3. I do it like this:
  • A1. Open. Match energy and then lead with situational observations that lead into conversation. DHV. etc.
    A2. Receive any tiny weensy bit of IOI...
    A3. Reward her interest with more of my attention and build from there into C1.
The problem with my M.O. is that if the girl does what the latin HB did yesterday by actively closing off her body language, I can't transition into A3. I wanted to be careful so I don't come on as a try-hard, pursuing her attention when she was obviously blocking me, especially in day game, when everyone is going about doing their thing, not necessarily thinking about hooking up.

While my method has worked for me pretty well, I do admit it is a bit passive. I'm naturally physically attractive, not a male supermodel, but enough to be opened by a cute girl at a party every now and then, and that has made me a bit lazy lol.

Any suggestions on tightening up my day game?
Author:  nermob [ Mon May 17, 2010 6:27 pm ]
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Or were you waiting for her to open you because you were chatting up everybody else?
short answer: No. I was waiting for an IOI. Anything at all. Even just a quick glance and I would have taken it and run. But i got nothin.

Off the top of your head could you think of anything I could have done to "invite" an IOI. I'm trying to keep this daygame-oriented, which i think calls for a little more subtlety.
Author:  Charlatan [ Tue May 18, 2010 12:17 am ]
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I dunno man... I'm not very experienced with the "get her to come to me" thing, so maybe someone who plays it that way more will have better advice.

It seems to me that it's a tough situation to get much more of an IOI in. If she's intentionally trying to avoid you for whatever reason...

I think there's a point there where if you're getting that vibe that she's interested, don't wait for more indicators and just go ahead and open her. If you're wrong you're wrong. So what? There's another HB right around the corner. ; )
Author:  ~Finesse [ Tue May 18, 2010 3:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: HB Pretends Disinterest
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Does anybody have any tips on how I could have opened her? I normally am pretty decent at engaging people in conversation during daygame, but for some reason this situation just stumped me.

"Oi, you don't have to text me when I'm standing right here!"
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