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No.5 Basics of mastering conversation
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Author:  thevault [ Tue May 04, 2010 5:24 pm ]
Post subject:  No.5 Basics of mastering conversation
I've came to the conclusion that basic conversation comes down to:

1. What we've done or has happened
2. What we are doing, whats going on or what we have noticed
3. What we want to do, are going to do, or were going to do

Then you add in your opinions relating to the subject, listen and then respond to the other persons opinions.

It really is that simple, this way you will be making more statements instead of asking constant questions.

Making statements is the key, you can ask questions but make sure when you do they're open ended so the conversations keep flowing but try to keep questions to a minimum.

(Opened ended questions start with: What, where, when, why & how)

Easy conversation topics:

Friends (who is everyone, how do they all know each other and any funny things they have done etc)

People (what they are like/their personalities)

Clubs (what you think about them, SPAM etc)

Travel/Citys we've been to

Food/Drink (even drugs depending on the girl or group)

If you stick to these you should find conversation starting to get very easy. find more subjects and add them to the list as you progress
Author:  Knuckle Bomb [ Wed May 05, 2010 4:41 am ]
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This is completely off subject but... I feel you have just simplified the definition of conversation in such a way that I can write a computer program for an AI entity that starts a realistic random conversation based on your points... thank you. When I'm rich I will throw you 10% of the royalties.
Author:  thevault [ Wed May 05, 2010 10:42 am ]
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list any other conversation topics you want
Author:  SSN [ Thu May 06, 2010 6:16 pm ]
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Thank you for this! It's exactly the type of post I've been hoping to find at some point.
Author:  bits [ Sat May 08, 2010 2:46 pm ]
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I'd like to add something:

Good conversation topics (eg for building a connection with the target) are topics which include both the PUA and the target.

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The closer a conversation subject is to the target, the better she can relate to it.
For example: Talking about how you and the target met (red&blue section) is easier for her to relate to than talking about how you and your best friend met if she doesn't know your friend (red&green section).
Example2: Talking about what you both think about door-policy in clubs (red&blue&yellow section) will be more fun for her than talking about how a friend of yours once couldn't get in some club because he didn't shave that day (green section)


Ofcourse, this theorem is subject to exceptions and you should merely see it as some sort of guideline.
Just my 2 cents here :)
Author:  thevault [ Tue May 11, 2010 1:43 pm ]
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Thanks for the above reply, it was very good.

I was thinking of a good topic just there now and It's on people/traveling/other places or people you've met

You can discuss the different way people are when it comes to how they socialise in different schools/clubs/towns/cities/countries

E.g.

Where I'm from people tend to get drunk before they go out, this is probably due to all the clubs closing so early here "2.00", this is bad because people rush to get drunk and because everyone is so drunk fights tend to happen out side when everyone is put out of bars and clubs at the same time.

I can use this type of topic to frame the way I want her to act and to let her know how to seduce me.

I can say that I like "a certian bar" because its easy to talk to girls there because it's more chilled out and friendly, the girls are more open there and it's way easier to talk to them but in this club "we're in now" I don't really like its SPAM because alot of the girls are bitchy to each other and the guys are kinda aggressive

With this sort of game I'd work in sexualframes and if she likes you she'll start to qualify herself on not being an unfriendly superbitch and open up to you more. Infact this type of subject is the start of one of the most important frames there is "she becomes sexually aggressive when she is with someone she really likes or is attracted too"

I found alot of this sort of stuff out from Captain Jack so if you like the sound of this check him out
Author:  Munroe (MUNROE) [ Tue May 11, 2010 3:57 pm ]
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I agree with most of what has been said, but remember to focus on topics that involve opinions, feelings, and emotions. These are called rapport topics. Rapport is the way girls tend to talk to each other.

Topics regarding factional information (events, history, plans, etc.) are called report topics. Report is the way guys tend to talk to each other, but if you rely on these kinds of topics, you will quickly be grasping for straws.

Remember "Rapport vs. Report".
Author:  thevault [ Tue May 11, 2010 4:39 pm ]
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In the original post by writing "Then you add in your opinions relating to the subject, listen and then respond to the other persons opinions." I figured guys would just get it (opinions = how you feel about it/thoughts/likes dislikes etc)

If anyone doesn't understand anything I've writen don't hesitate to PM me, I'll be happy to help

But report topics breed rapport ones

E.g.

I used to live in thailand 3 years ago < (report) I'd love to go back, I haven't had that same feeling of actually really doing something crazy with my life since do you know what I mean < (rapport)...

read all my posts with a pinch of salt btw, only real world practice/experience will get you any results, the less complicated, the less you think the better you will be, most of my posts are just generalisations/personal reminders so you do the work and think for yourself, if you read my posts read them in order
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