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Author:  Qlass [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:59 am ]
Post subject:  The Truth About Falling in Love

There is something I wish a lot of women (well a lot of men too for that matter) would realize about love:

It doesn't happen like it does in Hollywood!

Many of us getting into the Game, or even having been in the Game for a while will already be able to back this claim up. The term 'social conditioning' is very well known amongst the members of the Seduction Community. But I wonder if its members realize just how deep and intrinsic this conditioning really is?

I wonder if the guys in this community, who relapse and end up with oneitis all over again despite the great strides they've made to rid their lives of it, realize what oneitis is?

It's a fantasy.

It's an ideal.

It's a myth. Conjured up by your parents. By your churches/other religious institutions. By your teachers and your elders. By your TV and movies and most of the music industry. And yes. Even by your closest friends - especially the girls in your lives, who themselves don't know wtf is going on with their emotions.

But here's the kicker - and this is really important: Stop and ask yourself. If you are a guy who (believed) he got this all handled, and you fell for some new girl and ended up with ridiculous oneitis... How much of it was actually falling in love with the girl, and how much of it was just falling in love with the idea of love?

Take a minute with that...

If those of you reading this suddenly had a little light-bulb turn on in your head, then I'm reaching the right people, and you definitely need to keep reading. Think about the social pressures and what you see on the surface around you. High-school sweethearts getting together. Going off to college and meeting someone. Falling in love. If you see that, have felt that, and most importantly if you lack that now, you are very susceptible to the disease that is oneitis. Because what you see around you, the fantasy on the surface, is so alluring. So tempting. So intoxicating that when you meet that new girl, and she is amazing, suddenly you throw all that you have learned from this community out the window. Why? Because at your core, at your very deep core, you are still a good person who just wants to be loved.

And Hollywood got to you before reality did.

Because at our cores we still want what we see on TV. Dreams disguised in clever marketing. The ideas our parents put in our heads, especially if your parents are from very traditional backgrounds such as those in Asia. You know how my parents fell in love? Letters. They were pen pals. And they have suitcases filled to the brim with letters. Try being satisfied with your own romance after hearing a story like that.

And this is how we believe it is supposed to be. We hear something our elders or our communities tell us, and it is enforced that much more upon our impressionable young minds by TV. And all we see is what's on the surface.

What if we delve a little further? What is "falling in love"? And I mean falling in love with someone, not an idea of someone?

It's not like what you'd expect. It's not an instantaneous spark. It's not some romantic, serendipitous meeting of souls. It is not always mutual at the beginning. And it is not as easy as you would think.

On some level: yes, it should be easy. On some level, yes it is serendipitous. And on some level, yes there is a (mutual) spark. But if you look at the odds, very rarely does that spark just appear between two strangers walking in a park because their dogs happened to lead them to each other and they figured it was love at first sight (or some other hollywood crap). Most of the time it's two people meeting through a group of friends. One of them likes the other (probably because the guy thought the girl was cute or the girl thought the guy was funny). And he or she pursues the other until finally they're together.

And that's all it is.

Persistence.

Really?

Think about it. Think about all the couples you know. I mean really think about it. How often is it just one person asking the other, and the other figuring "Let's try and see what happens"? And if you look at that couple after a few months to a year, how much do they love each other? The answers are: very often, and very much.

It's because in life things don't just "work out with time". It takes work. And it takes persistence. Now I'm not telling those guys out there who have retarded oneitis for their best friends to keep trying. If you are one of those guys and are using this article to reinforce your belief that you can win the girl over - slap yourself because you're being a moron. I'm not saying you can't eventually win her over. I'm saying you are trying for the wrong reasons. Don't use love as an excuse for pride.

But for the rest of you who understand what it means to get the girl - ie. to get "the one" you must learn to "get them all" - and you have found the one you want: work at it. Pursue it. Try your best. Know what love means to you - to me it is the feeling of coming home. Falling in love is building a home. It takes time. It takes effort. It takes sweat and tears. But home is where the heart is. For others it may be something else entirely. Avoid the friend zone at all costs. If she tries to put you there, set her straight. Do not take her or anyone else's shit. Because you are not just "some guy" who will bend over backwards for her. You are not just some guy she can use. You are not just some guy that is small competition for other dudes.

And you are second to no one.

The key to Success is Consistency.

The key to Consistency is Persistence.

The key to Persistence is Strength.

And the key to Strength is, as we know, Confidence.

If you can see love for what it is, and still believe in it, then there is hope for you yet. Despite the damage Hollywood may have caused.

Happy Valentines,

Q.

Author:  WALMART VOODOO [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:11 am ]
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love isnt a feeling, its an act, if i buy you an apple and thats your favorite food, that means i just loved you. its a commen misconseption and the reason why people "fall in love" is because motivation follows action, not vice versa. if you sit around waiting for the mood to strike you, youll wait forever. same goes with love, if your sitting around waiting for the right time to go up to a hot babe and say hey beutiful. its not gonna happen. go up to her and say it, and youll feel like you said it after you said it. and a whole lot more.

VOODOO ON YOU MUTHA SUCKKA hahaha i dunno, sup dude?

Author:  Fin [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:58 pm ]
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Love is often nothing like it is portrayed in the movies, but it's a very real and potent emotion and drive. It roughly comes down to biological preservation instincts and a cocktail of drugs pumped into your system...

But hey, what were you expecting? Would it make love more real if it was an unkown phenomena chalked up to "magic"?

No! love is as it is! And that doesn't detract from what it does... ...for some it's like a calm boat ride, for others it's a rollercoaster, it can be incredibly calming and comforting or heart-poundingly fun; it can also be soul-crushingly pain-ful.

It's silly to hold a glamourised view of love, but equally naive to abandon the whole concept becuase hollywoods particular portrayal doesn't stand up.


Love, is awesome and far more diverse than most people think. :)

Enjoy it!

Author:  The_Boss_ [ Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Truth About Falling in Love

Quote:
I wonder if the guys in this community, who relapse and end up with oneitis all over again despite the great strides they've made to rid their lives of it, realize what oneitis is?

It's a fantasy.

It's an ideal.

It's a myth. Conjured up by your parents. By your churches/other religious institutions. By your teachers and your elders. By your TV and movies and most of the music industry. And yes. Even by your closest friends - especially the girls in your lives, who themselves don't know wtf is going on with their emotions.

Q.
Dude :S

its been around before tv and music. and look at animals in the wild, they feel it too.

I disagree that its a myth......

Author:  Jezebel [ Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:23 am ]
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Love is a feeling and willingness to give in. Love is what you make it to be. If it were a myth then I like living it as if it were true. And then again what is truth? Is it only what we can see and touch? Do we need proof for our own emotional state? Why do we even analyze it instead of enjoying it? Do you really need logic behind every single thing?

Sometimes stopping for a minute and simply enjoying the moment is all we need.
Love happens every time we smile and we are truly happy.

Jez

Author:  The_Boss_ [ Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:12 pm ]
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Quote:
Love is a feeling and willingness to give in. Love is what you make it to be. If it were a myth then I like living it as if it were true. And then again what is truth? Is it only what we can see and touch? Do we need proof for our own emotional state? Why do we even analyze it instead of enjoying it? Do you really need logic behind every single thing?

Sometimes stopping for a minute and simply enjoying the moment is all we need.
Love happens every time we smile and we are truly happy.

Jez
i LOVE what u just wrote jez. haha punn intended

well said

Author:  Lodewijkp [ Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:19 pm ]
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Love is a mixture of biology, psychology etc.

Love is finding happineness in a situation where your not happy
Love is hiding from the truth
Love is like a door which you can enter to hide from reality

We all like ferrytales when we were young ( i still do LOL ), Love is just like a ferrytail.

i think you also need to learn to love, you can learn to love in different ways.

i recommend you all the movie '' Before sunrise'' with ethan hawke... it's quitte realistic according to PUA-daygame-logistics, but even better.. i think it's the most romantic movie ever.

Author:  Turn Up the Night [ Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:43 pm ]
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Before Sunrise is a film I'm very fond of, regardless of whether or not you think of it in terms of 'PUA' or not.

As for love, well I'm with Jez and this is a problem I sometimes have with this community is it's obsessive over analysis. It has it's place in the beginning but eventually once you're aware of the concepts its best to try and roll with it properly.

Author:  Profumo [ Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:00 pm ]
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I have to agree there's some very good replies but I believe Love is a form of madness...literally. Think most of us have had some sort of oneitis case where we would do things which wouldn't normally do for a girl and there would always be some sort of attraction which at the time we couldn't explain but it all seems pefect until that shitty day when you find out somehow that it's over and nothing makes sense anymore, everything reminds you of that person, you always remember the good times and how happy you were but still can't understand why it would end, you would happily give it all up to start again but it's no use... just have to get on with your life and hope you meet someone who would make you feel that way again but next time for good. The more experience you get the more you'll start to know yourself better and make sure you dont fall over someone who isn't going to make you happy and eliminate the dissapointment. The better you know yourself the better your judgement will be!


Truth is we can't help who we get attracted to and who we like but is a combination of a number of things which makes people fall in love or lust in many cases which is mistaken for the other. There is a fine line between love and obsession, whether it exist I couldn't tell you but haven't ruled it out. For all you cynics out there dont be so sure! It might even happen to you.

Author:  Joe Alpha [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:44 am ]
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Quote:
I have to agree there's some very good replies but I believe Love is a form of madness...literally.
Lot of Sociologists think so too, but as the joker said "Madness lets you free".

The OP kind of confused me, first he calls love a myth and then he goes explaining what love is (and how I imagine most people perceive love) and says it's true. Sorry, mate, can you try and summarize it? You mean that Hollywoods version of love is fake? We already know that รณ_o

Author:  aflifer [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:20 am ]
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love isn't an ideal or a fantasy, its intimacy. Plain and simple

Author:  Qlass [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Truth About Falling in Love

Quote:
Dude :S

its been around before tv and music. and look at animals in the wild, they feel it too.

I disagree that its a myth......
So I think you guys have misconstrued what I said. Not sure how but I am NOT saying that love is a myth. Do not confuse love for oneitis. And DO NOT confuse oneitis for monogamy.

Oneitis is one-sided. It is unrequited. It is the product of generations of cultural tradition and in modern day, media as well. It is unhealthy attachment. It is obsession. Not love. And a LOT of people mistake obsession (infatuation) for love.

Please do not turn this into a debate about what "love is" or is not. Save that for another thread. This is intended to help those identify what it is they are falling for.

Q.

Author:  The_Boss_ [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:27 am ]
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so then

HOW DO I KNOW WHEN I AM IN LOVE? haha

ive been seeing a girl for about 3 months now

I think im in love? :S or am i!!! :P

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