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| Author: | ~Finesse [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Action no action/Doing not doing |
...and all things related. Well not all things, but this post is going to be about a few things. ½Rant ½Advice to newbies. Maybe some of this stuff has been said before, maybe all of it has, it's likely so. I'd hate to think that I am the only one who was able to come to these conclusions. Anyway... Firstly: Lifestye gets girls! If you look at the majority of Pick Up material out there, and the ideas/methods/techniques a lot of them use, you should be able to notice that they are trying to fake(or at least convey) a good lifestyle. High Value, Preselection, having choice, etc. all are displays of having a good lifestyle. Having a good lifestyle affects both outer/inner factors in your 'game' too. Having a good lifestyle means you *should* have interesting stuff to talk about (DHV for you value junkies), it also shows you have things going on in your life, passions, achieving goals, etc. Also, having things you excel at does wonders for your self esteem and confidence, and also you general overall mood, outlook on life and baseline happyness. Not seeking, yet receiving... a few years back, when my lifestyle was at its best, I didn't even have to try to get girls, they would just happen to flow into my life naturally. I didn't have to think of ways to come across as high value, I was high value. I didnt have to boast or brag, I didnt have to steer the conversation in a way that would give me the oppurtunity to convey my value, I could just sit back and just be. If you have good things going on in your life, this will naturally come out in conversation. Another thing, was being good at several things, leading an active busy life, gave me a real good energy and outlook which came across without me having to try to do this. When you make this your life, girls will want to be a part of that. People will want to be a part of that. If you practise not doing, and just live in the flow, everything will fall perfectly into place. Doing not doing... Once I joined the community and started reading up on 'game', I realised that most of the stuff it teaches, I do naturally... Kino, Teasing/negging, cocky/funny, eliciting good emotions, etc etc etc... most of what I read, I did naturally. Now my teasing and cocky funny hasnt been affected negatively by game, apart from paying attention to the fact im doing it. Kino hasnt been affected apart from in my mental it feels unnatural/forced/calculated, although it doesnt come across that way. The biggest thing that has been effected by game, is my natural conversation skills. And that really bugged me. I read an article by Keychain where he mentions 'analysis paralysis', which is basically a case of too much thinking/analysing your actions while you're interacting, and it literally does just that and messes you up. I put this down to reading too much pick up material too fast, at the beginning the little info I did know was helpful, and did help, but as I absorbed more info on non sarge days, I ended up with too much stuff in my head in field. I think a good way to deal with this, is going in field and really going by the ideas from my post "Living in the Flow", cutting out any more PU material for a good while, until I stop analysing during my interactions. I think a very good piece of advice for beginner, which I wish I had done, is to first go out in field, get a good number of approaches down(must push them as far as possible), then come back to the forum/chat/pua pal, and tell them in detail how the interactions went. Then you can find out where your skills are lacking and need improvement so you can be given only the help you need, and directed to material where you can read up on that. For the next few months, I am going to try and keep all of my interactions free from all pua thoughts/analysis, and let my natural game kick in at whatever points it may(which is what you should be looking for anyway.) I hope this will help some people. Keep it natural. .peace ~Liquid Blend |
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| Author: | Sykko [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:16 am ] |
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Tao is like a river. Stop resisting,join the flow and you will find your way towards the sea. I like your attitude towards PUA. Keep it up, - Sykko |
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| Author: | Guidosaurus Wrecks [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Action no action/Doing not doing |
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If you practise not doing, and just live in the flow, everything will fall perfectly into place.
I tend to find quite the opposite. I was at one point an approach machine, I broke down my interactions as i went and realized what I needed to be successful, since then I have taken this direct stance and unfortunatley my skills have receded! I think you must practice doing, but more unstructured and have a natural conversation.But I agree, all this absorbal of information is the worst, hence I might do exactley as you say and ignore this site for awhile. ~ego |
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| Author: | ~Finesse [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Action no action/Doing not doing |
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If you practise not doing, and just live in the flow, everything will fall perfectly into place.
I tend to find quite the opposite. I was at one point an approach machine, I broke down my interactions as i went and realized what I needed to be successful, since then I have taken this direct stance and unfortunatley my skills have receded! I think you must practice doing, but more unstructured and have a natural conversation.But I agree, all this absorbal of information is the worst, hence I might do exactley as you say and ignore this site for awhile. ~ego Maybe I can help you understand a little better, try approaching without approaching. Feel free to go and practise techniques/ideas from time to time. But when it comes time to actually make an approach, and by this I mean a genuine approach - not one for developing your skills, let your mind be free from analysis/thinking, and just flow through the interaction. (If you're so concerned about your PU techniques...) If your practise has been perfect, then you should naturally be *doing*, without doing. ~Liquid Blend |
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| Author: | Jav [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:26 pm ] |
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Once you build an ecosystem where women flow in and out of alot of things become easier. Tim from RSD talks about this in his "Flawless Natural" DVD-set. You go spend your time in your favourite bar/starbucks/where ever people meet. And you automatically are surrounded by girls. They come and go. You're hitting a major point with doing without doing. There will be no outcome dependancy, you don't care about what she might think. You're just saying Hi because you feel like saying Hi. Then you go with the flow and talk about something that first pops-up. Why? Because you enjoy talking about stuff that pops up into your mind. Not to forget we are social creatures, we must communicate. |
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| Author: | miscr [ Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:28 am ] |
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changed my opinion with the whole PUA business |
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| Author: | lawls [ Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Action no action/Doing not doing |
Quote: ...and all things related.
Yes, everything is holistic, same time one needs to understand the interconnectedness of things before one gets this epiphany.Quote: Not seeking, yet receiving...
"One can know the world without leaving his doorstep" Quote: Doing not doing...
Leave nothing undone it means. |
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