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| Author: | trixsta [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Transitioning from girls onto women |
Some of you may know I now study at Newcastle University, and here lies my question. In Sixth Form, all the girls were 18 max and below, and since I lived in a non-university town the older girls were quite chavvy, and had mindsets of girls etc. Come to university I’ve been with plenty of girls, all 18 or 19. Now I’m 19 and I’ll be 20 next year, 20 is essentially a woman. Was talking to a 22 year old model who I found in my facebook friends, turned out we’d spoken on TheStudentRoom before but completely forgot who she was. Anyways we had a good conversation and I teased her, she kept initiating conversation and I generally thought that I could pull this off. After an hour or so my mam wanted me to go to bed (I was at home from uni hahaha) so I told her I had to go, but she could text me and gave her my number. Now here is the problem, I’m something of a master when it comes to online game (not bragging or anything) and I know that giving a girl my number always works if she is interested; regardless what others say of number closing. The “I’ve got to go but I’ll give you my number” line has worked countless times, I’ve even tested it on girls I don’t even want. Turned out I was pretty disappointed she didn’t text me; is this because she thought of me as a boy as I was doing what I was doing at 17 and 18? Should I have continued having interactions before giving me her number? Maybe women are not as easy as girls. She is 22 so will probably be a completely different person than she was at 19. Will I transition naturally? I expect to. However, are there any tips anyone can give me that they’ve learned from dealing with both girls and then onto women? |
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| Author: | Jav [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:04 pm ] |
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OMG YOU GAVE YOUR NUMBER AWAY? WHERE'S MY REALITY. |
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| Author: | trixsta [ Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:29 am ] |
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Quote: OMG YOU GAVE YOUR NUMBER AWAY?
My reality is that I give girls my number and they text me; that's what I'm used to and that's what always seem to work.WHERE'S MY REALITY. What I am asking is do I need to adapt my game from girls onto women. |
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| Author: | Jav [ Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:19 pm ] |
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As far as I'm concerned there's no difference. They may be more open to talk about sex. But that just varies from person to person |
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| Author: | franktheman [ Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:48 am ] |
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To begin, I hate online game, phone texting etc and don't waste time with it. The real deal is when she is right there, the real attraction can build. Just get her to meet you in person, then you can do some real PUA. Whatever the way (IM, facebook), don't play around or waste time. I've seen way to many PUAs play around with phone games, texting, facebook crap, and 99% of time it results in flakes. If she likes you, she will spend time with you in person. |
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| Author: | trixsta [ Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:22 pm ] |
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Quote: To begin, I hate online game, phone texting etc and don't waste time with it.
Not really relevant but thanks anyway!
The real deal is when she is right there, the real attraction can build. Just get her to meet you in person, then you can do some real PUA. Whatever the way (IM, facebook), don't play around or waste time. I've seen way to many PUAs play around with phone games, texting, facebook crap, and 99% of time it results in flakes. If she likes you, she will spend time with you in person. |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Transitioning from girls onto women |
Quote: 20 is essentially a woman.
LOL . . . just having a tough time getting past the above . . . LOL . . .Anyhow, think about what just happened: 1. You give her your number. 2. Your expect her to text. 3. She doesn't text . . . 4. Now you go "boo hoo" with a broken heart. Come on . . . Doesn't this sound like a chick to you? You're the one who's got balls. You're the guy. You GET HER number. You text/call her when ever the fuck you want to call her. You oblige her with an offer to take her out to where ever you want to take her out during a time that suits you. Grab the reins man! If you project the persona of a 14 year old girl, everybody will treat you like one. If you want women, become a man first. |
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| Author: | StreetLight [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:23 pm ] |
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I agree with evryone here... talking to her on facebook, and giving youre number, that really sounds childish. I always found those "I met this great girl/guy througth the internet" imposible, its really hard for me to believe that this works. MAYBE as an opener but sertenly the game is played in THE FIELD !!! |
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| Author: | trixsta [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Transitioning from girls onto women |
Quote: Quote: 20 is essentially a woman.
LOL . . . just having a tough time getting past the above . . . LOL . . .Anyhow, think about what just happened: 1. You give her your number. 2. Your expect her to text. 3. She doesn't text . . . 4. Now you go "boo hoo" with a broken heart. Come on . . . Doesn't this sound like a chick to you? You're the one who's got balls. You're the guy. You GET HER number. You text/call her when ever the fuck you want to call her. You oblige her with an offer to take her out to where ever you want to take her out during a time that suits you. Grab the reins man! If you project the persona of a 14 year old girl, everybody will treat you like one. If you want women, become a man first. The thing is, giving girls my number has always worked a treat – but the thing is they are girls not women, so I’ll probably change my ways; cheers for your input. |
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| Author: | Tasty [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:28 pm ] |
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I feel bad that you're 'mam' still tells you when to go to sleep... My mother quit doing that once I hit high school (i was 15) I think you're overthinking the situation.. When I find myself analyzing the situation, and essentially WORRYING about it, I let it go. I wait until something happens. |
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| Author: | trixsta [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:04 am ] |
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Quote: I feel bad that you're 'mam' still tells you when to go to sleep...
I was at home and the when the main computer is on (wireless internet) it keeps her awake.My mother quit doing that once I hit high school (i was 15) I think you're overthinking the situation.. When I find myself analyzing the situation, and essentially WORRYING about it, I let it go. I wait until something happens. I wasn't worrying, I didn't care about the outcome just surprised as to why she did not text me. I don't analyse either, I just recognisewhat is happenong |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Transitioning from girls onto women |
Quote: ... Of course there’ll be immature 20 year olds but that is the age I’d expect ....
Stop.
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| Author: | ~Finesse [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:42 am ] |
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Giving chicks my number has worked perfectly fine for me. It's really funny to see everyone so bothered about trying to appear alpha, it really is quite funny. I BIG MAN I CALL YOU WHEN I WANT UG UGG. and all that bollocks. If you really have to, then why are you unable to see giving chicks your number as being alpha. The way I do it, tends to tell them, that I have things to do, and that I won't be making the effort to call them. I put the ball in their court. I tend to say something like "yeahhh... I'm gonna go now, but you should text me or something." (sometimes sounding intruiged/not so interested, sometimes using high energy[different effects, same outcome]) at which point they ask for my number etc etc. You could flip this all and say, why take her number, this shows needyness, you're worried she wont get in touch so you take her number. SPAM your number, shows that you have confidence that she WILL get in touch with you. It puts the ball in her court, and shows you don't need to be able to get in touch with her. And makes HER put in the effort. That's how I see it, and thats how it works for me. ~Liquid Blend |
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| Author: | trixsta [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:33 pm ] |
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Quote: Giving chicks my number has worked perfectly fine for me. It's really funny to see everyone so bothered about trying to appear alpha, it really is quite funny. I BIG MAN I CALL YOU WHEN I WANT UG UGG.
I respect you more and more man. That's exactly what I thought but now I'm wondering if maybe it's only teenage girls who make the first move.and all that bollocks. If you really have to, then why are you unable to see giving chicks your number as being alpha. The way I do it, tends to tell them, that I have things to do, and that I won't be making the effort to call them. I put the ball in their court. I tend to say something like "yeahhh... I'm gonna go now, but you should text me or something." (sometimes sounding intruiged/not so interested, sometimes using high energy[different effects, same outcome]) at which point they ask for my number etc etc. You could flip this all and say, why take her number, this shows needyness, you're worried she wont get in touch so you take her number. SPAM your number, shows that you have confidence that she WILL get in touch with you. It puts the ball in her court, and shows you don't need to be able to get in touch with her. And makes HER put in the effort. That's how I see it, and thats how it works for me. ~Liquid Blend I mean I've already forgot about this woman but that doesn't mean that I'm slightly disappointed she didn't text me. Maybe women don't act the same way as girls and that they don't make the first move as often as girls. That said, David DeAngelo says that women chase him and not the other way round. |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:31 pm ] |
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LB and trix, Functionally speaking, the phone number itself means little. Trix's game is based on his philosophy that 20 year old chicks are "mature and need to be gamed differently". Any time you begin with skewed perceptions, your communication process and the way others perceive you will also be skewed. The problem is . . . one's belief systems are nearly impossible to change. If you think fat asses are ugly, fat asses are ugly. Nobody is going to convince you otherwise. I already suggested to trix that 20 year olds are about as mature as eggs but how will he understand this? His experiences are different. So . . . instead of looking to change your belief system, what you try to change is the communication process itself. You can easily CHOOSE to ask for her number instead of giving one. You can easily CHOOSE to set up a specific spot and a specific time to meet. (as an organized, mature man would) Once you begin acting like a thoughtful mature person, girls will TREAT YOU like a mature thoughtful person. "Yeah, call me whenever, gotta sleep now, bye" ...... "Here's my number, call me or whatever or something or whenever . . ." --- Guys, I'm not saying the "act disinterested thing" has no place in PU but if that's the goal, just handing them your business card and saying nothing would be better. |
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