agreed. although, you can never have a good booty call or gf if you are known as a player, a woman will never trust someone that has a past rep like that.

so, as long as you dont give a crap about having anything other than sex with randoms, its good to be known as a player.

You can have an amazing relationship with your GF even though you have a past as a player. It really does not matter.

You can have an amazing relationship with your GF even though you have a past as a player. It really does not matter.

I don't agree.

I think going under the radar is always more powerful. You may get some easy lays off of girls who are attracted to "player" types, but you're also setting up some serious road blocks for yourself with other girls.

In Hollywood, everyone knows John Stamos is a womanizer and it creates problems for him. A lot of unneeded resistance.

A guy like David Spade gets laid a lot too, but you would never know it because he keeps it on the DL.

As for the serious roadblocks, never encounterd them. I have gotten shit tested more but like I sad in my original post, thats a good thing.

thats because you are still fairly new to this. girls can back off completely as they fear being just another one of your pick-ups.

there is often a lot more resistance (and shit tests as you say to size you up) if you COME ACROSS as a player. you dont want to be putting on the 'im a player' vibe while spitting game at the bar. girls pick this up and will be resistant to it as they can see you would do this with every girl in the bar. it doesnt make them feel special, it makes them feel like just another victim of yours. if you come across as more genuine and are curious about HER and are interested in WHO she is, this will be conveyed automatically and she wont see you as this flashy player while wondering whether she can trust you or not. its about being your own awesome self, and not putting on a player mask.

i am known as a player in my social circle (to girls and guys), the girls tend to like it as I 'understand' attraction and women alot better than my male friends do, i often speak to the girls about theories/concepts regarding what women like/dislike and they are fascinated by my knowledge on this subject. however when it comes to trying to sex someone in my social circle (which I dont often try to do), i have had a fair share of resistance as they dont want to be your prey. girls dont want to be played. they will be on the back foot and approach with caution. they know i have these 'skills' and this intimidates them a bit. it doesnt mean your player status necessarily prevents attraction, it just means you need to handle it differently and convey that they are not just another one of your pick-ups. in general girls like the player as he is a challenge, he is confident, interesting and is normally a lot of fun....he is also by default pre-selected by other women as the very fact that you hold the player status, means that youve had your fair share of the ladies. this also means youve got experience in the bedroom etc. there are many other attractive points about the player, however dont forget that there are factors which cause resistance which could result in you having to put in a bit more work or take a slightly different approach.

creating attraction is not the problem if youre a player...its getting the girl to ACT on her attraction for you. she'll probably like you alot from the word go, but will be reluctant to be just another one of your lays.

I discovered the "community" three years ago. So no, I'm not new to this.

I have no problem getting girls to act on their attraction for me. If you do its not because of the "player" reputation that you have.

no worries, your statement below just sounded a bit like you had only learnt about shit tests and attraction recently....

ie. "In case you didn't know, every time you pass a shit test the women will become more attracted to you. "