PUA Forum :: Boiling down game to basics

That is not as simple as it gets.

There is a difference between "running game" and being the game.

A person "running game" does XYZ things to get the girl.
A person who IS THE GAME just does whatever he wants, and he gets the girl.

How does this person do it? Its because of 3 things:
1. He approaches.
2. He shows intent .
3. He speak from the core.

You know what approaching means, but Intent and speaking from the core are two bigger subjects.

having intent is knowing what you want and going for it. Read WAY OF THE SUPERIOR MAN. So, when you are talking to a hot girl, are you just talking to her? or do you have a boner? Having intent also means that you are a PHYSICAL guy and CLAWS the girl. I see so many guys infield who are just all fun and woo and not PHYSICAL enough--this is why girls think they are gay.

Speaking from the core is EXPRESSING yourself. When you express yourself, you have no incongruence. A man who knows his values, his realities, and who he is is High Value. "running game" is not EXPRESSION but instead IMPRESSION. It is not congruent to who you are, that is why you get shit tests.

I'm just gonna cut it off right here. enjoy.

Author:	gravesRR7 [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:57 am ]
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I've read a lot of post about what game really is to people. Really if you boil all of these techniques down, game gives a mechanism to subcommunicate things like alpha characteristics, a fun personality, confidence, etc. I used to have a 'map' of the M3 model in my head and go out and game trying to progress through the model. Recently i've taken a different approach, and with some of the best success i've ever had: I think that to successfully pickup women, you must get yourself 1. In state 2. Demonstrate the hell out of preselection. 3. have good subcommunication (body language, kino, mild peacocking, even NLP) I used to try to come up with awesome DHV storis, etc. But really, i feel like they progressed the sarge because they merely gave me material to use to subcommunicate other qualities. as long as you're subcommunicating the right things (good body language, tonality, smiling, being playful), i've found that I've only had to concentrate of showing preselection. Most all of my 'DHV's i've used in the past few weeks have somehow included past women i've dated, sex stories, women i've met, etc. ***(some classic ways i've done this is to tell a story which starts with "my last girlfriend..." or "I dated, don't hate, a stripper who had....." The key is to make the story not about the woman, but just mention her in the story. I also ask girls opinion on the following situation which is about an interaction I had with a girl, and even concepts of social dynamics) likewise, running these subcommunications while not 'in state' is totally useless.

Author:	SirKonstantine [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:54 am ]
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That is not as simple as it gets. There is a difference between "running game" and being the game. A person "running game" does XYZ things to get the girl. A person who IS THE GAME just does whatever he wants, and he gets the girl. How does this person do it? Its because of 3 things: 1. He approaches. 2. He shows intent . 3. He speak from the core. You know what approaching means, but Intent and speaking from the core are two bigger subjects. having intent is knowing what you want and going for it. Read WAY OF THE SUPERIOR MAN. So, when you are talking to a hot girl, are you just talking to her? or do you have a boner? Having intent also means that you are a PHYSICAL guy and CLAWS the girl. I see so many guys infield who are just all fun and woo and not PHYSICAL enough--this is why girls think they are gay. Speaking from the core is EXPRESSING yourself. When you express yourself, you have no incongruence. A man who knows his values, his realities, and who he is is High Value. "running game" is not EXPRESSION but instead IMPRESSION. It is not congruent to who you are, that is why you get shit tests. I'm just gonna cut it off right here. enjoy.

Author:	Jaybot [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:02 am ]
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as probably the only anti-Pua on the forum yar I have to agree, some people follow a structure .. it works for them. I at the moment try to keep my head down and not attract women alas being the game equals not a moment of god dman peace belugrh more beer for fucksake (dark side of the game maybe) bleurgh

Author:	gravesRR7 [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:31 pm ]
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Quote: That is not as simple as it gets. There is a difference between "running game" and being the game. A person "running game" does XYZ things to get the girl. A person who IS THE GAME just does whatever he wants, and he gets the girl. How does this person do it? Its because of 3 things: 1. He approaches. 2. He shows intent . 3. He speak from the core. You know what approaching means, but Intent and speaking from the core are two bigger subjects. having intent is knowing what you want and going for it. Read WAY OF THE SUPERIOR MAN. So, when you are talking to a hot girl, are you just talking to her? or do you have a boner? Having intent also means that you are a PHYSICAL guy and CLAWS the girl. I see so many guys infield who are just all fun and woo and not PHYSICAL enough--this is why girls think they are gay. Speaking from the core is EXPRESSING yourself. When you express yourself, you have no incongruence. A man who knows his values, his realities, and who he is is High Value. "running game" is not EXPRESSION but instead IMPRESSION. It is not congruent to who you are, that is why you get shit tests. I'm just gonna cut it off right here. enjoy. speaking from the core, to me, is similar to being in-state. When i'm in state, i am fun and have no problem expressing myself honestly and attractively. when i'm not in state i rely on 'game' and, as you said, normally get many more shit tests I love what you said about showing intent. This is KEY. Looking back on past interactions i've had, most of the shit-tests a girl give me are to test me to see if i'm hitting on her. there's a critical point here where you can playfully shrug it off (C&F), shy away from it (very unattractive), or go direct (can work). I preffer to keep them guessing, on a rational level, if i'm interested in them until I kiss them. utilizing CF and push/pull. one of my best sarges which happend the other week with an HB 10 totally cost me the Fclose because (first of all i pussed out) but will cost me the fclose in the future because I didn't state any intent. Good observation SirKonstantine

Author:	Friedrich [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:53 pm ]
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I sarge best when i have fun and don't give a fuck about consequences. Make of that what you will. Don't think, do.

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Author:	Visionxxxxxx [ Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:46 pm ]
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Quote: speaking from the core, to me, is similar to being in-state. When i'm in state, i am fun and have no problem expressing myself honestly and attractively read Vin Dicarlo's 'The Attraction Code'...you dont need to be 'in state' or get yourself into state. Its about directing your focus. If you are focusing on her and genuinely interested and CURIOUS about her, conversation will naturally flow, questions will come up by themselves and you WILL express yourself from the core. The only time you DONT express youreself is when your focus is partially in yourself, this results in being self-conscious or 'holding back' in order to seek social approval (fear of being judged). SirKonstantine, you hit the nail on the head.

Author:	Chief [ Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:15 pm ]
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There's more than one way to make a hamburger because there's more than several ways women feel attraction.

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