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Author:  Crowd [ Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:39 am ]
Post subject:  Progression and Regression in Pick-Up

So, I'm technically a newbie, but I've been informed that I'm a natural. The real reason I joined the seduction community is because I want to get laid more often, I'd like a nicer set of swavy social skills, and I'd like to be master of my own sexual destiny. With that being said...

Lately I've been regressing. Since I've started, I've had a steady rate of progression until I hit a recent snag somewhere. I haven't gotten any numbers in almost a 2 weeks due to coming down with the flue, and then trying to catch back up with my studies. It's left me in a spot of vulnerability because I had a lot of time to think. Not only did that open me up to a level of awareness about my physical and mental state (which I'm working on piecing back together), but it left me feeling unhappy.

Now I'm the type of person that enjoys being out going and bullshitting with people. So I seem normal when I go out sarging, but I'm beginning to recognize bad tendencies coming back into my game (i.e. Falling for shit tests in order to be a nice guy, which coincidentally is sliding me into friend zones.) Whatever the case, I'm wondering if regression after progression is a natural cycle of learning pick-up? Also, I feel like there is a lot of shit to internalize with pick-up and I've been instructed to stop reading material and assimilate information on an in-field basis. The reason I mention this is that it may still be too early to beat myself up for regression, based on the fact that I've only been reading pick-up material for a month and a half.

Edit: Also, I've never had a problem being needy before; but, since I've started maintaining a hyper social life with many women, I'm experiencing myself being needy. I've trimmed this back as much as possible, but I don't appreciate and or need that sort of characteristic. Any way to curb this other than being aware of it and smacking it down when possible?

I know this seems sort of cluttered, but any help would be great guys.

Author:  BadolzoN [ Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:05 am ]
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I'd say masturbate 8 times a day and some of that should be to gay porn.

It'll help your needy-ness A LOT

Doing this will derail your focus on sex, and even when you think of sex it'll be of gay sex.

Therefore your focus will be less on the girl and she'll find you more attractive because you just don't "give a fuck!"

Works like a charm for me.

Never expect an outcome when you're talking to girls - talk to them as if you're just there to have some fun and flirt. Don't have fun the friendzone way, make sure you escalate kino (I know this is very hard)

Also escalating kino TOO hard can make you seem needy, so this is a icky topic.

Author:  JasonJulias [ Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:46 am ]
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I'd say masturbate 8 times a day and some of that should be to gay porn.
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Works like a charm for me.
WTF LOL.

Try to focus 80% on inner game for now and leave the 20% to outer game until you feel complacent. Also, I agree with Hobbit. The effort you made to game girls is coming back to haunt you. It's like winning the Oscar. You put a lot of effort into making a movie, but as soon as someone waves a small useless statue in your face and gives it to you, you want to cherish it and never lose it. Just try to let go.

Author:  Crowd [ Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:51 am ]
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You may want to go into the PUA chat to talk about this, it seems pretty complicated (and as a result, would take a lot of posts) to answer.

I'd personally focus on the needy part, as that seems really strange to me. Only thing that comes to mind is that since your investing so much in getting the girls now, you are likely to value them higher than if you never had to work for it.
Thanks for that bro. Sounds about right on the head with the valuing them more because I worked hard for them. Damn! Talk about some reverse psychology.

I used game to game myself!
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I'd say masturbate 8 times a day and some of that should be to gay porn. It'll help your needy-ness A LOT

Doing this will derail your focus on sex, and even when you think of sex it'll be of gay sex. Therefore your focus will be less on the girl and she'll find you more attractive because you just don't "give a fuck!" Works like a charm for me.

Never expect an outcome when you're talking to girls - talk to them as if you're just there to have some fun and flirt. Don't have fun the friendzone way, make sure you escalate kino (I know this is very hard)

Also escalating kino TOO hard can make you seem needy, so this is a icky topic.
LOL! I'll give spankin it more a try. Although I couldn't possibly bring myself to do it to gay porn. Tell you the truth, I don't even like regular anal porn, much less gay anal porn! LOL!

I must say, the spanking it before you go out sarging thing didn't work for me. It zapped my testosterone and killed my drive for approach. I ended up being more interested in talking with my friends, and they got annoyed because they wanted to sarge!

I'm pretty comfy with kino. I know how to read when its not enough, and I know what too much is (had to draw the creepy line to learn it, but lesson learned fo sho).

I'm not terrible at pick up (I'm not great either though), I'm just experiencing some of the first side effects from assimilating this into my life-style. Trying to build a balance so that I don't fail at school and life.

Thanks for your response!
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Try to focus 80% on inner game for now and leave the 20% to outer game until you feel complacent. Also, I agree with Hobbit. The effort you made to game girls is coming back to haunt you. It's like winning the Oscar. You put a lot of effort into making a movie, but as soon as someone waves a small useless statue in your face and gives it to you, you want to cherish it and never lose it. Just try to let go.
I appreciate the suggestion, and I will do my best to develop a better inner game. Your metaphor makes a lot of sense too. Positive Affirmation: "I will let go."

Thanks bro!

Author:  Lodewijkp [ Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:23 pm ]
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I'd say masturbate 8 times a day and some of that should be to gay porn.
i guess everyone got their ways LOL

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