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Author:  kasabi [ Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:19 pm ]
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Perceptions . . .

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090805/ap_ ... b_shooting
Author:  Mike Lowrey [ Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:58 pm ]
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Wow... Some people have too many screws loose and it's awful to see. Reminds me of times where people have ran into schools and massacred the children...

Absolute disgusting.
Author:  Jav [ Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:07 pm ]
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"The biggest problem of all is not having relationships or friends, but not being able to achieve and acquire what I desire in those or many other areas," said an entry dated Sunday. "Everthing stays the same regardless of the effert I put in. If I had control over my life then I would be happier. But for about the past 30 years, I have not."

He was a full on chode, sad that it had to go this way.
Author:  DJ Fuji [ Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:09 pm ]
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Just blogged about this actually... http://www.taoofdjfuji.com/?p=153
Author:  kasabi [ Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:55 pm ]
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DJ,

Thanks, that was very well written. If you guys haven't read his blog yet, I highly suggest it.
Author:  Marc [ Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:58 am ]
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I have not read the entier post but from the begining 2 paragraphs I guess I know what this is all about.

So for all you guys and girls who keep cursing PUAs and guys who are learing this stuff well think again. If only this guy knew some PUA stuff and got laid once in a while.

The whole deal with PUA is to give guys like these a set of tools that would make them more attractive and likable and interesting = Getting laid & women and dating. Its a healthy lifestyle.
Author:  KristallNachte [ Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:49 pm ]
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its funny, I saw this on the news, and an hour later I got an email from Dave M's newsletter about it.
Author:  xibuz [ Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:32 pm ]
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I have not read the entier post but from the begining 2 paragraphs I guess I know what this is all about.

So for all you guys and girls who keep cursing PUAs and guys who are learing this stuff well think again. If only this guy knew some PUA stuff and got laid once in a while.

The whole deal with PUA is to give guys like these a set of tools that would make them more attractive and likable and interesting = Getting laid & women and dating. Its a healthy lifestyle.
Hivemind. PUA saves lives and decreases the r4p3 rate.

This incident reminded me of the Virginia Tech shooting 2 years ago. Cuz both of these guys were sexually frustrated and had self defeating self concepts. But it isn't sexual frustration that made them suicidal and misogynistic, cus they didn't do any r4p3 missions or buy time with hoes before the rampage. They were so disillusioned from themselves that they could not cope with living anymore.

Suicidals can finally be happy when they learn self esteem/confidence, rapists/pedos/voyeurs/stalkers/misogynists will decrease in numbers once they learn to attract females. Spread PUA, it will prevent more things like this from happening.
Author:  Chief [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:31 am ]
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This is getting to be really big news within the seduction community:

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburght ... 37150.html

Looks like someone's going to lose a lot of business
Author:  eskwire [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:41 am ]
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I really enjoy going out with guys who have almost no experience picking up women.

It's a total confidence booster to have the rAFC tell you that you look like you did an awesome job as he watched you from across the bar. Then to have him enter a set I started and talk to strange women at a bar for the first time ever. And later in the night to have him go and approach a set on his own.

The inexperienced guys learn they can do something they thought not possible and look up to me as if I taught them to do it.

I wish I had met George before he went to the gym.
Author:  kasabi [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:45 pm ]
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As far as "helping" this guy . . . a professional tried and failed. What I take from this incident is more in line with what DJ wrote in his blog.

There's a bit of "Sodini" in all of us. This forum is filled with guys who openly share their frustrations and pain over some incident with a girl. I am not saying that the pain itself doesn't exist. . . if you feel it, it exists. However, negative emotions brewed up from misconceptions and misperceptions is simply a waste of energy. Backtrack to the initial physical event that sparked negative emotions in the first place and meditate on that. . . . there's nothing there.

Also . . . I've always thought that it was a terrible disservice for certain members of the dating community to sell, "ANYBODY can do it! You can be a natural! You can be a PUA!" (For the sake of marketing) No . . . not everybody can do it. And if you've lived long enough, you'd know that some people plain suck at it no matter what. It's this way with EVERYTHING in life. Some people will never slam dunk a ball. Some people will never figure out biochemistry. Telling them that they CAN do all these things for a fee is criminal.
Author:  Turn Up the Night [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:06 pm ]
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Suicidals can finally be happy when they learn self esteem/confidence, rapists/pedos/voyeurs/stalkers/misogynists will decrease in numbers once they learn to attract females. Spread PUA, it will prevent more things like this from happening.
I can understand the side of suicidals, but I'm not sure I agree with your idea it'd prevents people from being perverse. Remember some of these people are married or even have girlfriends.

I don't understand people who take it out on other women though. Before I knew about this stuff I did resent women to an extent but didn't really think of the idea of murdering them. I think had I carried on down this path I'd have sooner commited suicide in the long run.

Also anyone heard of a forum, I think its called Lovesick.com or something and I think that is the dumbest idea ever. Full of sexually frustrated losers who need someone to give them support, not tell them to join the 'losers club'. They reinforce negative views.

I guess this is what good about this forum, we admit we have a problem and we have good means to be supported and people saying 'Go for it' etc. :wink:
Author:  870 [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:54 pm ]
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This is getting to be really big news within the seduction community:

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburght ... 37150.html

Looks like someone's going to lose a lot of business
Woah, that trainer is a member here. I know I've seen some posts from "R. Don Steele" before.

Small fucking world.

Your boy,
870
Author:  KristallNachte [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:48 am ]
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I can understand the side of suicidals, but I'm not sure I agree with your idea it'd prevents people from being perverse. Remember some of these people are married or even have girlfriends.
how is studying pickup when you have a girlfriend perverse?

a lot of aspects of pick-up could take a relationship you got without tech even more exciting and beneficial. plsu, some girls are totally cool with the open relationship thing
Author:  xibuz [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:24 am ]
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I can understand the side of suicidals, but I'm not sure I agree with your idea it'd prevents people from being perverse. Remember some of these people are married or even have girlfriends.
how is studying pickup when you have a girlfriend perverse?

a lot of aspects of pick-up could take a relationship you got without tech even more exciting and beneficial. plsu, some girls are totally cool with the open relationship thing
What he was saying is that "perverts" can be normal people with respectable careers, kids, wives and girlfriends, etc. But I don't think these guys are really content with their partners and their lives if they need to go and do those things.

My take on this is people who would otherwise turn to violent and abusive activities to act out their sexual desires can find hope in the seduction community that they can learn to attract and have healthy social relations with women. This applies to people who have been antisocial loners like Seung Hui, Sodini (and myself) or anyone who gets lucky and holds on to whatever comes his way because hes afraid it could take another 7 years to find another girlfriend.

Bottom line is people won't rape/stalk/molest/voyeur as much if they have the resources and community to help themselves achieve success in sexual relations. Will also be less frustrated to the point of rampaging over lonliness. As I learned from the blog link, the one size fits all program Sodini participated in could not help him help homself. With our momentum towards focussing more on innter game and being natural, we are growing in numbers and offering more support to people all over the world.

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