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| Author: | Mr. Amador [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:33 am ] |
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I'm on a wierd state of mind now...and I belive I have to tell you guys some things. Read the whole thing and tell me what you think. This community its been labeled as a self improvement one. First, I would like to make a distinction between self help and self improvement. Self-help is about overcoming stuff, self-improvement is about (oh surprise) improving yourself as a person (my personal definition, if its not the one on the dictionary, sorry I dont own one) When I think self improvement, I see two groups of people, the ones that really want to be a better person, with all the stuff that implies. And the people that want to get better at something because they want to fill a hole. If you are smart, probably you know wich one of the two groups will be better mentally and emotionally in the long run. You can be succesful with women, no matter on wich group are you. But please, think a sec about it. The only example I can give to you guys is myself. Back when I was un-succesful with women, and a virgin, I never felt bad about being a virgin. I never felt self-pitty about it. And that make everything easier to digest. Self improvement makes me think about metrosexuals too. Its ok to want to look your best, but its important to remember that the way you look is just one aspect of a whole, it doesnt defines you. I've seen very ugly men making beutiful women literally fall on their knees. But still those men took care of their teeth, wore clothes that favored them, and generally took good care of themselves, you gotta love yourself to be loved. Also self improvement makes me think about Tony Stark. Its not a childhood hero, its a current one. I want to be like Tony Stark since I saw the movie Iron Man. I could analize his behavior, and copy the thing that I belive would make me as cool as Robert Downey Jr. made him appear. But thats fiction. Trying to be someone else might get me chicks (I'm not saying it is wrong), but Stark lived and learned a lot of stuff from years of fictional existence. If I admired a real life person, that person would be like that product of years of experiences, a whole life that defined a personality. I had a nasty breakup recently, I'm kind of depressed and a thought of writing that this is my last post flashed through my head, but I'm over those pathetic cries for attention. I cant aproach now, I feel bad for old mistakes, even stupid ones, that makes me think what people thinks about me and it is really bothering me. I know how wrong is that, but I cant help it. I think that thats what held me from having succes in my early sex-less days, maybe some of you faced that obstacle too. That demon came back, and I dont know how to respond to it, maybe I just ignored the real problem, and in times of crisis it came back to bite my ass. Back to that about how a lifetime of experiences define a personality; looking back at my life, I have to think hard to find something that I'm really proud of. I was just reading a "personal escort's" blog. Cool blog, she talks about her clients and often an interesting story can be found there. She said that she wont post again, everyone was like "dont do it we love your blog". She said "Now I realize that I'm important in your lifes, not in your lifes, more like in your boring days" That got me thinking why I started to read about pick up. I dont want to be a normal guy, like the ones that read that blog just to satisfy their vouyerism and morbosity, wishing they could fuck a girl like that. (she is anonymous, but from the way she writes I bet that she is hot and smart). I dont want to read stuff, I want to do it, I want to be there...I'm not talking about this escort chick in particular, I'm just saying I wanted to do stuff, have an interesting life...the stuff she wrote got to me, and made me feel like even If I was getting pussy ocassionally, I wasnt really doing something interesting with my life. Certainly, it wasnt like Tony Stark's. I read on one of countless dating, and pick up guides I've read in these years that one of the main characteristics of high value men was to belive that everything they did was cool...no matter what. I lack that now... I had something that resembled it but I lost it...everything looks boring now, the time I got that hot bartender's number, when I made out with the hottest chick in the club...that time I was at a table entretaining 8 girls at the same time, all of them listening to me and looking at me like they wanted to fuck me right there. All those things...hold no value to cheer me up now. But my real enemy here is my mind, is just that I'm seeing at things from a bad angle, and I'm not cooperating on making easy for myself to change my view on things. I dont want you guys to feel bad for me, probably tommorow I'll feel ok again I'm writting this cause I belibe that the problem we all share, (or shared once) is in our minds, being succesful with women is not about lines or methods, looks or clothes, its about having control over yourself, physically and mentally. All the other stuff id just details. The road is very bumpy, you can lost the reins pretty easly. The only advice I can give to people is to be persistent, and to never stop beliving in yourself. I read that 90% of the people that gets into this stuff never gets succesful, now I know why. |
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| Author: | DAXX [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:43 am ] |
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If you dont mind my asking, how old are you? What your describing almost sounds like a mid life crisis. Buy a sports car, subscribe to NFL total package and shut up. Seriously though I went through a similar phase not too long ago. One of the dangerous things about the community is that it has you constantly setting new higher goals for yourself. This is usually a good thing, but once you taste success the goals you set become more and more lofty until your absolutely convinced that you will only be happy on your private jet full of playboy playmates. It sounds to me like you are a god amongst AFC's (i.e. 90% of the male population). Take a step outside your own head and marvel at your accomplishments from someone elses perspective. |
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| Author: | Buccaneer [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:33 am ] |
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I hear ye man, its difficult to step outside of yourself, see a constant improvement and just feel good about your accomplishments. I have the exact same problem. I've been in the community for almost a year now and have been in the most sweet seduction situations. My AFC friends are even getting jeleous of me... a situation that would have never been possible without PUA knowledge. there are these weird ups and downs... they influence all kinds of fields: PUA, food intake, drinking behaviour, inner game, motivation at work, dealing with neigbours and relatives. Its logical that improvement on one of these fields makes it easier to improve in other fields. And its logical that neglecting one of the fields puts negative pressure on another. So its easily to descend spiralling down, but you can also spiral up. Exactly how you described. Its my biggest problem right now and I know it will bite me in the ass if I don't find a cure. When I do... I'll let you know. Until then, hang in tight, and don't worry. The sun will shine again! |
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| Author: | Jaybot [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:44 pm ] |
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I have similar problems my personality makes me feel like there is more for me elsewhere, constantly and so I stay in one place for a week or two begin setting up a life then move. But yar I think everyone at one point or another becomes lost, I will lie in bed for weeks not because I have a reason to more because I don't have a not to. Then move. I think people need to embrace their problems and make them positive. I move because I enjoy traveling, love exploring and enjoy meeting new people. Rather than I get bored quickly and feel the world gets stale if I stay in one place. Meh ride it out see if you feel the same in a week or two |
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| Author: | Mr. Amador [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:00 am ] |
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Hey!! I'm not old DAXX!! I'm just 22!! I was trying to tell you guys how easy is to have your confidence ruined. Sometimes I find people posting stuff like "this pick up thing is BS!!, you just give enough confidence to these guys so they can talk to women, its all about confidence, this methods are just a bunch of words" I used to think that that was a pretty ignorant comment, just a douche trying to criticize something to feel better about himselft, but there's something there. If you dont have enough self-esteem, mental and emotional capability, and most importantly enough drive to get things done, you wont get far with this stuff, period. When I read that in the personal escort's blog, I thought, crap... this girl is really proud of herself and her job, she enjoys it, and we are just a bunch of losers reading about how funny is to ride this rollercoaster. I got into pick up not neccesarily to get girls (I've already mentioned that I didnt felt unadequate because of my deficient sex life). I got into it cause i didnt wanted to be a normal dude, the guy that "gets lucky" sometimes, the guy that has a boring life, the guy that has no style, no charisma and no money. There are thousands of this people that might be happy with life as it is. But I fucking need more. I expect from life a hot wife (wifes? tons of hot women? not sure yet), a great job that I do with passion, and that gives me enough money to afford my lifestyle. Maybe I was too deprived as a teen, and I'm overcompensating, (my family did ok, but when I turned 12 my fahter's company went bankrupt, we recovered fully in 2007), a critical time, the girls I wanted would not look at me, because I wanted to impress them, and the only wayu I knew back then was to wear expensive clothes, drive an expensive car, and party in expensive places. But come on...you cant blame me for trying to be better, I think we all are on the same page here.. we dont want to be the guy that passes by unnoticed on the club, we want to be the fucking center of attention. People fail, and will fail on pursuing pua-ness (new word) because you need to really want to do it, and have the balls and skill to do it. Its not enough to say "I love Mystery, I love this guy, that guy is my hero", or to really really horny, or havent been laid in 6 years or ever, bottom line: THE PEOPLE THAT FAIL AT SELF-IMPROVEMENT (PICK UP) NEED SOME SELF HELP FIRST. |
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| Author: | Jav [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:36 pm ] |
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The only thing that got ruined was your ego. Confidence is for life. |
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