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Author:  Incubus69 [ Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  What are your Anti-Bitch Techiques?
I know many PUA's discourage others from drinking while in-game. However, I like it because I say whatever and don't give a rats ass. I'm not encouraging people to follow my lead because I'm not a really great Role Model in the PUA field. I'm just me and like to do my own style. However, when I'm not drunk I'm still bold.

So, after Bachelors Grove Cemetery, we go to my friends house to drink. There were other people there also.

So, we go there and sat down. I cracked open a Coors Light and started drinking. Cindy which is my friends girlfriend sister. Dave lives in the same house as his girlfriend because they 're raising a kid. Anyways, so it's Jason, me and Dave - some other two guys and two girls.

Dave came in the kazebo and Cindy said, "You losers." or something - can't remember because alcohol was buzzing. So, I rplied back, "Oh, that's nice - you're blonde!" she's like, "Oh, oh that's mean" or some jazz. Then I started to play with a rubber duck that was on the table and she told me that her ex got it for her or something. I said, 'It looks like a devil!" Then everyone got quiet and I said, "Wow, the place is quiet!" "That's because you're making fun of my duck!" she said. "Well, you're the one with a obsession of rubber ducks."

Over all good night to make the short story long. We got chased by the cops at Bachelors Grove Cemetery, and got plastered at my friends house.

My question to you is that when a girl acts bitch what do you do? :)
Author:  downunder [ Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:38 pm ]
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depends on the girl mate. If you just want to piss her off then say anything, but if you want to get in her pants then you need to understand she is just using her bitchiness as a defensive mechanism.

So you need to just tap right into that and touch a nerve, not so much that it makes her a mockerry, but enough to let her know you see straight threw her act.
Author:  Incubus69 [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:24 am ]
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Yeah, that makes sense. I thought it was funny when I called her a blond. She's normally bitchy towards everyone. Anyways, thanks for your input.
Author:  Chief [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:34 pm ]
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Your methods are ineffective.

Attempting to punish bad behavior with more bad behavior (fighting fire with fire) only makes things worse.

Punish bad behavior by ignoring it. Any form of attention is a reward that reinforces behavior.

When the girl called you guys losers, you should have just carried on doing whatever you were doing with a smile as if nothing happened.

Once she shows some kindness, shower her with some attention.
Author:  Jav [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:26 pm ]
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"why are you being so mean ~sad face~"
Author:  Fin [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:49 pm ]
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I'm with chief.

Otherwise, I don't generally get bitchyness, if I over step the mark I apologise and continue, if I haven't and she gets bitchy I ignore, and if she persists then I ask her wh yshe is acting the way she is.

If her answer is unreasonable she will make herself look bad and the battle is won.

Honestly I don't get bitchyness, I find it hard to find, usually when I read about guys complaining about OUTRIGHT bitchyness in comparrison to ST's, it's becuase they did something chodish in the first place :lol:
Author:  Legion [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:24 pm ]
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Quote:
Your methods are ineffective.

Attempting to punish bad behavior with more bad behavior (fighting fire with fire) only makes things worse.

Punish bad behavior by ignoring it. Any form of attention is a reward that reinforces behavior.

When the girl called you guys losers, you should have just carried on doing whatever you were doing with a smile as if nothing happened.

Once she shows some kindness, shower her with some attention.
Holy shit. You NAILED it. I just opened my journal and wrote that down.
Author:  Corey [ Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:11 pm ]
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Quote:
Your methods are ineffective.

Attempting to punish bad behavior with more bad behavior (fighting fire with fire) only makes things worse.

Punish bad behavior by ignoring it. Any form of attention is a reward that reinforces behavior.

When the girl called you guys losers, you should have just carried on doing whatever you were doing with a smile as if nothing happened.

Once she shows some kindness, shower her with some attention.
I'd say he did an alright job and didn't take it too far. He just wasn't letting her get away with being bitchy.
Author:  Workaholic [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What are your Anti-Bitch Techiques?
Quote:
I know many PUA's discourage others from drinking while in-game. However, I like it because I say whatever and don't give a rats ass. I'm not encouraging people to follow my lead because I'm not a really great Role Model in the PUA field. I'm just me and like to do my own style. However, when I'm not drunk I'm still bold.

So, after Bachelors Grove Cemetery, we go to my friends house to drink. There were other people there also.

So, we go there and sat down. I cracked open a Coors Light and started drinking. Cindy which is my friends girlfriend sister. Dave lives in the same house as his girlfriend because they 're raising a kid. Anyways, so it's Jason, me and Dave - some other two guys and two girls.

Dave came in the kazebo and Cindy said, "You losers." or something - can't remember because alcohol was buzzing. So, I rplied back, "Oh, that's nice - you're blonde!" she's like, "Oh, oh that's mean" or some jazz. Then I started to play with a rubber duck that was on the table and she told me that her ex got it for her or something. I said, 'It looks like a devil!" Then everyone got quiet and I said, "Wow, the place is quiet!" "That's because you're making fun of my duck!" she said. "Well, you're the one with a obsession of rubber ducks."

Over all good night to make the short story long. We got chased by the cops at Bachelors Grove Cemetery, and got plastered at my friends house.

My question to you is that when a girl acts bitch what do you do? :)

Well you could buy her plastic duck!

I think you did the right thing, if you let a girl bitch at you in front of the party and do not hold your own then how alpha male does that look? She probably embarrassed herself more then you, I mean you was not even offensive you called her plastic duck the devil, unless she is some Christian worshipper who believes Jesus as being a duck in the after live then were all screwed!
Author:  R.G. [ Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:59 pm ]
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Agree with Chief.

What Chief said is not the only way to deal with it though - there's loads of options. Because simply ignoring is great, but you can go one step further - rather than dodging the bullet, you could use it to your advantage. Particularly, you can use all your shit-test material and even amogging tactics can apply. Look at Swingcat's stuff on framing & metaframing.

Another technique is to 'agree and exaggerate'.

In general you should be:

-indifferent
-laughing/happy
-unaffected

Another technique I will add to the mixer is (because this is perhaps one of the only ways where you can actually disagree with the HB - note, AFC's default response is to disagree which = lose):

HB: "Are you to scared to go and talk to girls?"
PUA: "Nah, I wait for the girls to come to ME :)"

So basically disagree with C&F. Gotta get it right though, and if you do, you retake the frame, up attraction due to confidence and a whole range of other great things.
Author:  Chief [ Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:02 pm ]
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Quote:
HB: "Are you to scared to go and talk to girls?"
PUA: "Nah, I wait for the girls to come to ME :)"

So basically disagree with C&F.
That kinda stuff comes off as really insecure if you don't have tight inner game, though. Hell, people with tight inner game rarely even bother with lines like these.
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