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Author:  ~L.J~ [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:48 am ]
Post subject:  Anti-Game Article I Came Across. - Thoughts?
This article appeared in a local university magazine. Obviously the writers name is fake.

What are your thoughts?

EDIT: Apologies for the huge images.

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Author:  Foundation [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:41 am ]
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I actually agrea with most of what the writer says. Its nothing new, the community has been full of drama and some fuked up illlusions of what succes is. All this is just information to help you become a better person, not to fake a better person.

Even the most scripted method (mystery's) tells you this at the beginning. There are 3 core basics to be attractive. Health, Love, Money. This is having a good life, having good friends who love you, being fit, and being succesfull.

We commonly say: Fake it till you make it, the sad part is that most people dont actually make it.
Author:  Jaybot [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:41 am ]
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I agree with everything said to some degree, a lot of guys get a taste of this and swallow up as much as they can. The problem being they don't understand social norms or context so they become like the guys in the article.

Admittedly the article is written with a bias but sensation sells. Also the guys in hte article are clearly not lifestyle PUAs, they are guys who have let pickup take over their lives.

This is a good guide as to what not to do. It's hilarious though how the screw ups of the community are the ones that get the press, I suppose it is a more entertaining read than "This guy learnt how to become confident and set goals, he now has a great job and is in a relationship with a cute girl".


Meh, all comes down to how seriously you take this whole thing I suppose.
Author:  trixsta [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:39 pm ]
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I also agree with everything in the topic, and it makes me wary of myself just in case I become a weirdo like them.
Author:  Jav [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:22 pm ]
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It's a normal human response towards the community.

No person wants to think their lives aren't good enough , as it would be an insult towards their own efforts. So they start attacking it.
Author:  Troutbum83 [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:45 pm ]
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One word...........HATER!!!!.......
That guy has A- no point to the story, B- real jealousy issue's. He's mad cause PUA are cocky and mean toward women, and they get women to like them using routines and what he descibes as "lies"? He is mad at HIMSELF. It's called projection, and he is projecting his anger at himself at others. He WANTS to go out and talk to women, he WANTS to be the life of a party, he WANTS to be able to flow and control social dynamics and situations. But to do this he needs one thing he is lacking....BALLS.
Author:  Fin [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:05 pm ]
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Quote:
One word...........HATER!!!!.......
That guy has A- no point to the story, B- real jealousy issue's. He's mad cause PUA are cocky and mean toward women, and they get women to like them using routines and what he descibes as "lies"? He is mad at HIMSELF. It's called projection, and he is projecting his anger at himself at others. He WANTS to go out and talk to women, he WANTS to be the life of a party, he WANTS to be able to flow and control social dynamics and situations. But to do this he needs one thing he is lacking....BALLS.
1. He's not a hater, he's misinformed. The community has changed alot in the past couple of months alone.

2. Not all PUA's use lines. Or are cocky, or are mean.

The post is a perfectly reasonable critique of RAFC's etc and other elements which the community is trying to rid.

However it is not in itself a good critique of the community, becuase he clearly doesn't really understand how the community has turned lately.

Edit: I like his opening, "I am in a good relationship with an attractive member of the opposite sex"

From a psychological analysis perspective... you have to wonder why he made such an irrelavant statement :P
Author:  Sexcellent [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:40 pm ]
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my response:


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Author:  jsquared [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:32 pm ]
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This guy is NOT a hater. He is just disgusted with what his friends have become. He is looking at the community through the "negative lens". This is to say, that he doesn't see the positive qualities that are there. His friends in this article are classic cases of social robots. He is advocating that you do not let yourself fall into that trap, and anyone who has been here long enough would say the same thing. Don't lose yourself to these "rules".
Author:  trixsta [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:23 pm ]
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Posted: Yesterday at 8:05 pm Post subject:

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Troutbum83 wrote:
One word...........HATER!!!!.......
That guy has A- no point to the story, B- real jealousy issue's. He's mad cause PUA are cocky and mean toward women, and they get women to like them using routines and what he descibes as "lies"? He is mad at HIMSELF. It's called projection, and he is projecting his anger at himself at others. He WANTS to go out and talk to women, he WANTS to be the life of a party, he WANTS to be able to flow and control social dynamics and situations. But to do this he needs one thing he is lacking....BALLS.


1. He's not a hater, he's misinformed. The community has changed alot in the past couple of months alone.

2. Not all PUA's use lines. Or are cocky, or are mean.

The post is a perfectly reasonable critique of RAFC's etc and other elements which the community is trying to rid.

However it is not in itself a good critique of the community, becuase he clearly doesn't really understand how the community has turned lately.

Edit: I like his opening, "I am in a good relationship with an attractive member of the opposite sex"
From a psychological analysis perspective... you have to wonder why he made such an irrelavant statement
To show that the game is only a guidance, not a necessity. He is right. I've got with plenty of good looking girls before the game.
Author:  zhukaching [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:47 am ]
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disagree, community makes me a more confidence man who appreciate who he is.
Author:  Fin [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:35 pm ]
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Quote:
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Posted: Yesterday at 8:05 pm Post subject:

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Troutbum83 wrote:
One word...........HATER!!!!.......
That guy has A- no point to the story, B- real jealousy issue's. He's mad cause PUA are cocky and mean toward women, and they get women to like them using routines and what he descibes as "lies"? He is mad at HIMSELF. It's called projection, and he is projecting his anger at himself at others. He WANTS to go out and talk to women, he WANTS to be the life of a party, he WANTS to be able to flow and control social dynamics and situations. But to do this he needs one thing he is lacking....BALLS.


1. He's not a hater, he's misinformed. The community has changed alot in the past couple of months alone.

2. Not all PUA's use lines. Or are cocky, or are mean.

The post is a perfectly reasonable critique of RAFC's etc and other elements which the community is trying to rid.

However it is not in itself a good critique of the community, becuase he clearly doesn't really understand how the community has turned lately.

Edit: I like his opening, "I am in a good relationship with an attractive member of the opposite sex"
From a psychological analysis perspective... you have to wonder why he made such an irrelavant statement
To show that the game is only a guidance, not a necessity. He is right. I've got with plenty of good looking girls before the game.
And what would that point have to do with anything covered in the topic.

He is discussing the pitfalls in which guys fall into becoming anti-social loners. Not discussing the effectiveness of any methods employed.
Author:  Chief [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:27 pm ]
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He's basing his opinion on the assumption that a PUA is someone who "spins a web of lies."

That's just Mystery Method people. It's a shame that the more honest and dignified schools of thought in pickup go unnoticed.

Yeah, it's too bad that Mystery Method is at the forefront of this community, but... Hey, you know what they say: "All publicity is good publicity."
Author:  Watermelon [ Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:40 am ]
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I agree to the author.

That is why I never even use canned lines or any "scripted" situation, acting as someone who I am not. That is just lame.

Also the whole peacocking thing is lame. If you are the shit, you are the shit, you don't need fancy hats or other retarded thing.
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