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Author:  Marvel [ Tue May 19, 2009 5:53 am ]
Post subject:  Asian American Male = Advantages.
(Mods please move if I've posted in the wrong arena).

Yes, I typed it....do not let your eyes deceive you, you non-believers.

There seems a stigma that still exist amongst many Asians on here (as well as others) that it's a hindrance to be Asian.

So, in the spirit of possitivity and advancement of inner game, I hereby bring you.....dadadadada dum......The Advantages of Being an Asian Male....Model. :D

Here please post only...and I mean only those positives of note.
Here's a few off the top of me head unless for the sake of debunking myths/misconceptions/social conditioning wrongs/etc....

-Smart, Successful = your automatically smart. Studies show that your reputation for being smart actually gets you advantages that otherwise you wouldn't get. Higher grade scores, getting hired over someone else, etc...

-Your automatically in the arena of being able to kick someone's ass. As much as we like to think that social conditioning and stereotypes are bad, learning to use them positively is the way to go if you can.

-Dating = your exotic via looks and culture (in most places). Unless your insecure of yourself, you are so. And your usually considered less threatening...which opens you up for wayyy more quick possibilities of ramped up aggression in pick up a la Playboy.

-And if you think size matters for seduction then, your probably too AFC to understand attraction anyways. The little engine that could is all you need for those "less fortunate" individuals of Asian descent.

I'll add more when I have time....
Well, just wanted to spark the fire...add your own fellas.
Author:  Ezo [ Tue May 19, 2009 8:39 pm ]
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Asian food is quite trendy so if you can bring food up in conversation you can mention some of the cool stuff you normally cook. Perfect way of having a day 2 without going out, you can have it in the close comfort of your bedroom... Cooking good stuff is providing resources, bordering to protector of loved ones.



Still I need to say that if you a model it doesnt matter where youre from. Just like it doesnt matter if you got no game at all if you are a millionaire...
Author:  expat_of_love [ Tue May 19, 2009 9:37 pm ]
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If you are a millionaire it doesn't mean a thing in Manhattan. Just like your navy blue passport will get you some of the world's most beautiful girls in most of Eastern Europe even if you work at Taco Heaven back home. Having slanted eyes will also get your ass kicked in certain parts of Eastern Europe as well. So it is a regional thing I suppose.

There does seem to be a lot of self-hate in many Asian guys. Lots of self-doubt. Even the title of this thread plays off the self-doubt and self-hate that seems to go along with many Asian males. Could this go along with the high levels of suicide among Asian males in America?

Personally, I hate the term "Asian". Brits call Indians Asians. Americans call anyone with slanted eyes Asians. Many Russians consider themselves Asians. Turks are Asians for the most part. The Middle East is Asian.
Author:  Jaybot [ Tue May 19, 2009 10:01 pm ]
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It is better than oriental, I hear that waaay too much, it enrages me. Makes it sound like Asia is a mysterious land from a victorian romance novel. I mean honestly who the hell calls it the orient?
Author:  jurupa [ Tue May 19, 2009 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Asian American Male = Advantages.
Not to hate, but this is all but generalities if that.
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-Smart, Successful = your automatically smart. Studies show that your reputation for being smart actually gets you advantages that otherwise you wouldn't get. Higher grade scores, getting hired over someone else, etc...
Keep in mind a lot of Asian families push their kids to be top of the class, and so a lot of people confuse this with being over achievers than being actually smart.
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-Your automatically in the arena of being able to kick someone's ass. As much as we like to think that social conditioning and stereotypes are bad, learning to use them positively is the way to go if you can.
This is too funny. I never seen an Asian win a street fight.
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-Dating = your exotic via looks and culture (in most places). Unless your insecure of yourself, you are so. And your usually considered less threatening...which opens you up for wayyy more quick possibilities of ramped up aggression in pick up a la Playboy.
Looks can help Asians. But it can also go against you when there is a huge population of Asians as well as that exotic look wears off.
Author:  Myth [ Tue May 19, 2009 11:20 pm ]
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Why would you post negative stuff in his thread?
Its to help Asians with inner game, when you go
through and write no thats wrong thats wrong too.
You ARE NOT helping anyone........
Author:  jurupa [ Wed May 20, 2009 12:46 am ]
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Why would you post negative stuff in his thread?
Its to help Asians with inner game, when you go
through and write no thats wrong thats wrong too.
You ARE NOT helping anyone........
I am not trying to put others down let alone post negative things. Sorry if it came across like that. I was more trying to bring reality to the post. As I seen way to many people say the above about Asians to much and its really not true. Besides would you rather have someone build their inner game on false stuff or on real stuff? In my opinion I think it is better to build inner game on real things about your self than false generalized things. Yes "faking it until you have it" can and sometimes work. Tho I am not much of a fan of that theory. :wink:

I was going to post some real world positives for asians later on. But to name a few that are true to a point at least in the US:

- Have hardcore family values
- Have a higher potential to earn more money than others
- Some speak two or more languages
Author:  expat_of_love [ Wed May 20, 2009 5:08 am ]
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Quote:
Why would you post negative stuff in his thread?
Its to help Asians with inner game, when you go
through and write no thats wrong thats wrong too.
You ARE NOT helping anyone........
Hey, 95% of the stuff on this forum doesn't help anyone. Who is going to believe some teenager from Middle America when it comes to life and broads? Get real. I give credit to the poster. He is touching on something that is very real - self-hate. Almost all of the young guys on here hate themselves. That is why they believe a man who wears a furry hat and makeup. That is why they are trying to be something they are not. The poster was at least telling guys with slant eyes to celebrate who they are. That is beautiful!!! Anyone who tells people to love who they REALLY are (no matter how nerdy or uncool they might be) gets my love.

The point is that society is NOT your friend. It will eat you up and then spit you right back out. You have to come to terms with who you are. Dance your own dance. Play your own game. Don't get caught up in competition or personalities.
Author:  luchini [ Wed May 20, 2009 5:53 am ]
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Im Asian and I dont really conform to the above stereotypes very well. I never rely on being asian to pickup girls. Sure being asian-american is part of my character it doesnt DEFINE who I am. But yes I can throw in a couple DHV stories such as bi-lingual, etc. but its got to be one part of your game not the entire thing.

IF you really think race plays that big a role in pickup then you need to seek counseling or therapy of some kind as your game will never be strong if you rely on stereotypes to define you.
Author:  Erison [ Wed May 20, 2009 7:46 am ]
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I can agree on the status quo of Asian American males having self-hate/self-doubt. In fact I'm speaking from a life of experience in that. It's a horrible feeling to always be submissive and brainwash yourself.

Chances are that most Asian-American males will have a similar experience too. It seems as if there is an inferiority complex that is drilled into our heads. I don't why. Maybe it's from our parents to keep us obedient and under control? Ugh I sound like an angsty 13 year old kid now :D .

Regardless of all the asian afcs and nerds, I have had the chance to meet a couple asian-american males who were AMOGs and naturals. Very rare to see, especially in an environment where the status quo plagues most of us. I look at these guys who seem to fit in and carry themselves strongly, regardless of their race. And it makes me think that all of this stuff is universal.

universal = means you can do it to.

(Yuu cahn du eet!)

I'm glad for this topic being posted, so props to you man. There are great aspects of being a minority. In fact I think being a minority could actually be a natural peacock in the right situation. Keep em coming.
Author:  expat_of_love [ Wed May 20, 2009 11:40 pm ]
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Here is a fact. The vast majority of people can't stand themselves. That is why they get caught up in competition and trying to impress others. If you really are confident in who you are none of that matters. True confidence is not the type of confidence that traditional PUA talks about. True confidence is much deeper and more personal. You don't gain confidence from the outside world. A man of confidence does not aspire to be a PUA. He is who he is.

The "Asian" PUA's I have seen pictures and videos of are a joke. Overtly fake. If I can sense that I am sure that most others can as well.
Author:  Tasty [ Thu May 21, 2009 5:03 am ]
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Yeah i've known about this all along..
I'm 50/50, half south korean and half white. I am 6'1 and lift 3 times a week religiously, and I know that i've been blessed with good looks.

I realize that looking a bit different from others (darker hair and skin, slight asian look) can be beneficial because that is peacocking right there in a biological sense. I however, sound 100% caucasian because i've lived here my whole life. So its a win-win imo.

One major problem is, what those in Western society value, many asian (males) lack. To name the obvious; penis size, physical height, overall confidence, MASCULINITY (asia has 10x more transexuals and more 'open' homosexuals), etc.
I do however know 2 Asian males (who are friends) that are of taller stature (one is 6'3) and exude great confidence. Maybe the reason those are my two only asian friends is that they have confidence.... I choose my friends wisely
Author:  cunning linguist [ Thu May 21, 2009 6:07 am ]
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The "Asian" PUA's I have seen pictures and videos of are a joke. Overtly fake. If I can sense that I am sure that most others can as well.
Expat, have to hand it to you, spot-fucking-on.

1. You'd expect Asian PUAs to "understand" the dynamic that comes with sarging their own women. Most Asian women I've met say their men dont have spine. Whether this is in a physical or mental sense, I don't care. They say it. And they'd rather date or sleep with foreigners ... for the reasons in my next point.

2. Asian men are agreeable to 90% of what women TELL them. Go in just about every Asian home - anywhere in the world - and you'll see how they're on a leash. Whether this is out of respect or the traditional values instilled in them, it's what it is. Hit the shopping districts in Asia and Europe and you'll laugh your head off at the number of them carrying their grilfriend's handbags.

and MOST IMPORTANTLY

3. Being Asian, black, caucasian or mixed race does not entitle you to anything other than your ambition in life. It's like opening a set of caucasian women and thinking they'll line up to fuck you just because you're black and (might) have a big dick.
Author:  Chief [ Thu May 21, 2009 7:41 am ]
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And along came Chief to actually help the people of MPUAForum.com get laid...

Look. Lying to yourself isn't "inner game." It really isn't. You can ignore the Asian stereotypes and focus on hyping up the so-called positives ones all day, but all that's doing is building a house on top of sand. That's not inner game.

The fact of the matter is... the Asian male, in American society, is stereotyped to be asexual. The handicapped/disabled are often referred to as "the sexually invisible," and Asian men are a close second in that contest.

Are you Asian? Do you want good enough game to actually get laid and fuck white chicks? Then what you must do is KNOW YOURSELF AS A MAN. A real man doesn't define himself by his race or by any of the other cards he's been dealt in life. A real man is self-made.

If you're Asian and want good game, you must separate yourself from the Asian identity so that people see you as a sexy, unique individual rather than define you by your race. Don't cling onto the Asian identity by trying to focus on retarded positive stereotypes. That will hurt you way more than it will help you.

Man up and look at your disadvantages straight in the face. Then actually do something about it rather than pretending or compensating. Your identity runs a lot deeper than your skin color. Discover it and show it to others. In the end, it's not about self hate; it's about creation.
Author:  Hypnotix [ Thu May 21, 2009 9:26 am ]
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^^

A-fuckin-men!!
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