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Author:  Incubus69 [ Fri May 15, 2009 11:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Boob Kino Alternative
Gimme some of your opinions and feedback. This has successfully been tested by me as well as the originator Gambler. I just revised the technique a bit to make it look less conspicuous and accidental.

I was at walmart when I use to work there. I was talking to a female coworker and i showed her some clips of Armante my friend acting like a goof. I was slightly turned away from her, arm extended having my forearm brush against her tit while showing her a video clip of Armante on my cell phone.

Another time which I just did now was I talking to a female staff, showing her movies that we should watch with the clients. I was slightly turned with my arm extended with the burned dvd's, forearm on side of her tit. She may have realized it or maybe not - she leaned against the wall, as we talked I glanced in her eyes.

Let me know if you have any alternatives, or any more ideas you can extend this idea. :)

If you're at the bar or something and have some crazy photos or videos on your phone - while talking to her get close to her with your arm extended along side of her, showing the photo or something on ur phone. I noticed if I'm talking keeping her mind on something then she won't notice and it won't seem like your a perve.

If you're ballsy enough to talk to her and try this - once you've kinoed and attracted her.

Bring up a sexual conversation by aiming it at your ex or a girl or whatever.

GUY: Why do girls always be worried how they look?
GIRL: Blah blah blah
GUY: It's nonsense - you know? My ex always told me she has small tits and she doesn't like them. If their big - their big!
GIRL: Blah blah blah
GUY: It's kinda insecure to running around saying oh, my ass is too big or my tits are too small, or my head is too big. I mean com'on! So what's up with all that noise?
GIRL: Blah blah blah
GUY: Did you ever ask your boyfriend or something whether was big or not on you?
GIRL: I think I have small/too big breasts or butt.
GUY: (IF ASS IS SMALL OR TOO BIG) Turn around (EXAMINE HER ASS) It's good, I mean look at that perfect ass (GRAB HER ASS or feel it). I mean Damn!
GUY: (If TITS ARE SMALL OR BIG) Are you shitting me? Y
GIRL: No I'm serious or something.
GUY: Yeah right, here I'l test them out. (GRAB ON TIT) No, their fine to me. Nice perky ass tits. *SMILE*.

Yes, this is how i talk to girls mostly - the female staff I don't gotta watch my mouth. :)

Let me know if there's any way you can expand them out or possibly test them out.

I think she'll have these bedroom eyes and have a smirk on her face. Like the girl did just a couple of minutes ago.

Let me know what you think!
Author:  Rawbot [ Sat May 16, 2009 12:10 am ]
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Stealth, I might be wrong, but isn't it weird to "brush your hand against a girl's tits"?

What do you get out of it?
Author:  Incubus69 [ Sat May 16, 2009 12:18 am ]
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It's kino - any touching by the arm, hand or whatever is kino. You're just being less obvious. If some people have the balls they can try the second one. I do it at my day SPAM. Also, The girl will sense you brushing on them - plus, it's clever it's not just like I GRAB UR TITS - it's more slick, creative plus it looks like it's just accidental and innocent. :P
Author:  JohnyZulu [ Sat May 16, 2009 1:52 am ]
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Stealth, I might be wrong, but isn't it weird to "brush your hand against a girl's tits"?

What do you get out of it?
I agree. That sounds like Molestation to me, and I'm pretty sure that's not cool... The whole premise of grabbing a girls ass or breasts in a public bar seems shady to me. If I saw you do that, I would think that and she didn't slap you I would think you were both really trashy. On the flip side, my friends and I would have a good laugh at your expense either way.

Not trying to offend, that this whole idea of accidentally touching a girl is just creepy. I don't see what you get out of it.
Author:  Incubus69 [ Sat May 16, 2009 2:23 am ]
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If there is attraction there and you've built up some kinda sexual escalation - grabbing her ass isn't that bad like it seems - more can happen like fucking in the bathroom. If you kissed her already then you could slap her ass when she makes a joke or whatever. It's been done by Gambler, David D, and others. It may not be wise to do it if you don't have the right frame - however, if you've gotten the girl in a sexual state of mind - then why not.

P.S. Molestation is done to children not adults. The reason why I use Accidental in this case is because if you've built some attraction and you're already using kino on her by touching her back, upper arm or hand then there won't be a problem. This move can be done with her boyfriend standing there. I've done it to my cousin's wife while he was riding in the car and she was sucking my finger under her coat. Well, coat - yeah pretty obvious. My cousin's a moron if he didn't see the warning signs of her infidelity.

However, infidelity dos cause damage - for instance trust, and also more problems within their relationship. I'm just me - I love sex, want sex and no strings attached no one gets hurt.

Sorry boys, but this is who I am. I rather fuck than love. :P
Author:  JohnyZulu [ Sat May 16, 2009 4:31 am ]
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P.S. Molestation is done to children not adults. The reason why I use Accidental in this case is because if you've built some attraction and you're already using kino on her by touching her back, upper arm or hand then there won't be a problem. This move can be done with her boyfriend standing there.
First of all, the definition of molestation:
mo⋅lest–verb (used with object)
1. to bother, interfere with, or annoy.
2. to make indecent sexual advances to.
3. to assault sexually.
4. To subject to unwanted or improper sexual activity.

Nothing about children. And when you look at the definition and then your creepy description of kino as listed above, that alone could qualify.

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I've done it to my cousin's wife while he was riding in the car and she was sucking my finger under her coat. Well, coat - yeah pretty obvious. My cousin's a moron if he didn't see the warning signs of her infidelity.
Why would you post that? Why would tell anyone that ever? That just re-enforces that you're a creeper and that is totally sleazy. Your cousin's wife? That's so fucked up.
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However, infidelity dos cause damage - for instance trust, and also more problems within their relationship. I'm just me - I love sex, want sex and no strings attached no one gets hurt.

Sorry boys, but this is who I am. I rather fuck than love. :P
Seems a little contradictory to me... I'm pretty sure if you're screwing around with your cousin's wife, they might both get hurt. I'm still not sure what you were trying to illustrate with that, but all I took away was creeper...
Author:  callmecaptain [ Sat May 16, 2009 10:05 am ]
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Stealth I see where you're coming from man.

I disagree with the above posts, but I also disagree with your method.

Kino in general is always good - builds comfort if done right. The tit grab thing is bold. The tit graze thing is kind of underhanded and it might not give the right impression. It doesnt seem very alpha to sneak a feel.

I remember AFC Adam had some bit on this where he would joke about how his female friends always had to grab his tits - otherwise he wouldn't be thier friend. Then after they did it he'd go "my turn!" and do it back jokingly and in fun. (I hope I got that right).

The ass grab thing might be better with an ass slap. Then say "Eh. It's ok I guess." That seems more playful and in line with the right kind of sexual escalation.

BUT I will say that your ideas are bold!

CPT
Author:  Reo [ Sat May 16, 2009 5:11 pm ]
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And people are giving this guy positive votes?
You left out the part where you get your ass kicked by her UFC boy friend who's standing over by the bar.
Author:  Killians [ Sat May 16, 2009 5:22 pm ]
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Not a good idea Stealth. I definitely would NOT like that if a guy did that to me. The fact that you are trying to pretend that its an accident kind of makes you come off as a perv.
Author:  V1V [ Sat May 16, 2009 11:32 pm ]
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And people are giving this guy positive votes?
You left out the part where you get your ass kicked by her UFC boy friend who's standing over by the bar.
Yeah but hes a mass murderer who eats UFC champions for a starter breakfast. GOD reo get it right :P
Author:  GamblerPUATraining [ Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:50 pm ]
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This is one to be careful with. The background the video that you saw was that I wanted to teach some "cool stuff" in the short amount of time they gave me. If I were given more time, I would have had a lot more detail in there.

Thinking about it now, any time I do something as sexual as touching her boobs or ass, whether done directly or in a funny way I'm 100% sure that it's going to be okay (she will be fine with it and rejection won't happen). I'm usually tongue in cheek with it and this is a huge part of how I escalate so quickly.

I'm definitely very sensitive to her reactions all the way through an escalation - how comfortable she is with eye contact, invading her space, touches on different parts of the body. I might escalate very quickly with a girl that I know can take it, but I wouldn't push it with a girl that can't.

Just my thoughts and definitely want to hear what you guys think.
Author:  Antithesis [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:03 am ]
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Not a good idea Stealth. I definitely would NOT like that if a guy did that to me. The fact that you are trying to pretend that its an accident kind of makes you come off as a perv.
Exactly. You're doing something "accidentally" and if the girl doesn't freak out about it because she's distracted, then it's some sort of validation? That's not how kino works. Kino is you touching the girl and the girl enjoying and even encouraging your physical contact to escalate the relationship. It's not a sneaky-distracted-boob-grazing.

~Antithesis
Author:  Jaybot [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:19 am ]
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I understand the basis of this and when used right it could work well but I am usually kinda past that part of kino too quick to have to worry about it (fuck that sounded arrogant). But you catch my drift casual brushing is one thing, micro looping hugs and kisses early on kinda bypasses it though.

Personally stealth I would focus on the verbal side of your game, no woman will be like holy shit he touched my boob I want to screw him, whilst you show her video clips.
Get into conversation to the bulk of the work there till you are in comfort then just fluff as you kino escalate but each to their own.

ooh it is also looking up Adam Lyons vid on kino from the under 21s convention 2008 (I have officially just become a geek lol). He talks about giving value to touch, I would expand on that idea and come up with your own routines
Author:  KristallNachte [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:26 am ]
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I really don't recommend anyone use OPs idea.

Forget this thread ever existed and move on.
Author:  mii [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:58 am ]
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yupp and its also really easy to grab a girls ass on the dancefloor.
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