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Author:  Gay [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Why does Pick Up Work? [HELP]
Hey everyone... Before I get shit on what I'm going to ask, please just humor me and answer it....


Why does pick up work? What factors make pick up so effective on women?


The reason I ask...I'm doing a research paper for highschool on pick up.


NO IT WASN'T MY FIRST CHOICE.

The teacher made me pick three passions in my life, and then she picked my topic.

So. It's not my choice, I wanted to do it on other topics.


So please, help me out.

Why does pick up work?



I have a few theories, but then again I don't get laid as much as I'd like. So I'm not in the best position to make these claims.


Thanks xD
Author:  Jaybot [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:44 pm ]
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With 220 posts I am guessing you know the basics of why MM things work, such as women thinking we don't want him here all ngiht etc.


other than that you can't fake being interesting, clever, or having an awesome lifestyle. SO you make these things real then what woman wouldn't want a well dressed guy, who is confident, funny and has an awesome life.
Author:  fealinlucky [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:03 pm ]
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hmm,

before I even get into the core of your question I have at least a few thougthts, take em with a grain of salt, but consider this from your teachers perspective....
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I'm doing a research paper for highschool on pick up.
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I don't get laid as much as I'd like.
I would respectfully recommend keeping the topic of getting "laid" out of your research paper...
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pick up so effective on women?
Why does it have to be just women?... lets face it... women pickup guys too... give your teacher both sides of the coin

Lastly,
Research papers usually require some sitation of actual material and not just forum posts...
Almost every book ever written about PUA addresses this issue to some degree... MAYBE a little homework is in order???

ok now that thats over...
why does pickup work?

Let’s start by defining what Pickup actually is... what is pickup.. Is it a community? Is it a technique? A series of techniques, manufactured Attraction… While I’m not going to write your paper for you, why not explore this concept… take a few paragraphs and address What actually defines pickup this will be your opener and thesis statement.

Without completely plagiarizing MPUA’s here are some additional thoughts to explore in your paper…
1) WHAT if pickup is more about your internal state than your external “FRAME” or mindset?
This is actually not a crazy concept… I mean I'm reading an excerpt of a phone conversation with Christiano Jr. and JSmooth from his blog http://jsmooth26.blogspot.com/2009/01/c ... no-jr.html
...check out what he says, Christiano is like.. the key is to find something your passionate about, life experiences, true passions or even just interests… when you talk about these items you don’t have to use canned material.. because it just flows.
SINN just talked about this as well in a recent post about someone claiming their life was boring im-boring-vt43356.html?highlight=
the key is to develop a interesting life rich with life experience
2) Attraction switches… really this is WHAT pickup IS… call it what you will.. but mystery says it pretty well in the venetian arts. Pickup is about Spiking the Attraction Punch with all these attitudes, actions, and attributes (wither perceived or actual) to proverbially “flip the switch” that tells a women, this guy is attractive.
3) If you still need more info… consider this compare and contrast… WOMEN PUA vs. Men PUA… what are the differences… What are the similarities… aka. What to men look for in an attractive women.. a women who is going out to “Pick up” a guy is going to do what? Vs. a man who is going out to Pickup women. How are the social dynamics different? What about the perceived social pressures that define the actions?

Lastly I want to follow up with a quote from a blog post AGAIN from JSmooths Blog (I swear he is gonna owe me royalties after this post =)
Tripp is talking about attraction, but read the differences here
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When a girl is this confident, she's considered aggressive. For some guys, this is a good thing, for others it's not. Most girls realize this and only those that really don't care what people think will be this brave.

When a guy is this confident, it's VERY attractive to almost all girls. The girl wants the leader. Most guys aren't so worried about the girl being a leader among her piers, just that she's attractive in his eyes.
And if that doesn’t give you enough to at least get started on writing that paper… idk what will
Author:  Stetson [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:15 pm ]
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Thats no question to get shit for... Its the reason why you're asking it :lol:!


Well why pick-up works? Its simple, really.

A long time ago, when people didn't know how to communicate by speaking, they communicated with something called body-language. You indicated happiness, angriness, sadness and all that stuff and more with body-language.

Even your arousal to the opposite sex.


You see, long time ago men were men. And most importantly, they acted like men.
This is what women responded to naturally, just like men responded to the looks of a woman, like they still do.
This would mean that women STILL respond when a man acts like a man, not a fucking pussy. Remember that evolution takes hundreds of millions of years.


So all the dating stuff you've heard and been teached is mostly the todays society's stupid trend. Our society is evolving faster than we can keep up.



So, simply, what makes us effective is that we have the advantage of knowing all this and how to be the ancient "alpha-male" and combine it with nowadays society and attract women.

Its not cheating, its like women who wear makeup.
Author:  madals [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:53 pm ]
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An interesting sub-heading of your essay could be to look at evolutionary reasons for it working.
Think about the way that evolution hasn't kept up with our social evolution.
Why do women go for the "tribe leader"? because he has access to greater resources and therefore gives a greater chance for survival or both herself and any children etc.

I think you need to write up a structure to this project, asking the question of "why PUA works" is really really vague. There is SO many aspects of pick up, so many different types.
Author:  Chief [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:05 pm ]
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David Deangelo already explained why. Look into his Advanced Series DVD set.
Author:  KristallNachte [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:01 pm ]
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Gay, get The Rules...or whatever...the female equivalent of The Game
Author:  Ezo [ Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:24 pm ]
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Really, what is pickup? Define it... Is it following a set of rules in order to get laid? In that case many mPUAs leave pickup as soon as they start becoming more natural.
Is it getting laid? In that case going to a prostitute is pickup since you use your resources to just get laid.
Is is getting the girl? In that case everything that works is pickup, even AFC stuff.

Are you talking cocky funny, venusian arts, NLP, direct game, and so on? Which one?

The game works for so many reasons:

- DHVing
- Not freaking her out
- Being unique
- Buying temperature
- Having fun
- Respecting her
- Calibrating your game according to the situation
- Insert anything you read on this forum here...

There are way too many reasons why it works or not works...

Good luck with the assay though...

Ezo
Author:  pedro2385 [ Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:23 am ]
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It works because it makes you become this cool, fun, decisive, dominant alpha male that women find irristably attractive.

I think most people have this in them naturally. They just find it hard to express on their own.
Author:  Gay [ Fri May 01, 2009 7:41 pm ]
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Thanks for the replies...


In response to a few of you...


I'm going to try to keep this research paper as clean as possible, so the word laid will not be in the paper at all.

I'm doing research from multiple published books and I figured it could not hurt to ask the ocmmunity.

As for adding a sub heading, good idea I'll think on it.
Author:  SirKonstantine [ Fri May 01, 2009 7:49 pm ]
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Alex has a good article.

Attraction=High Value (which is being in line with your core self) + Energy

http://alexattitude.com/?p=95

It is a MASSIVE post but should answer a lot of questions.
Author:  kasabi [ Fri May 01, 2009 7:55 pm ]
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How hot is your teacher?
Author:  V1V [ Fri May 01, 2009 8:26 pm ]
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Mate PU got me through my A level coursework, flat full marks.

Id go into MM tbh. Quite scientific. Your going to have to explain all the darwinian theory though. You could start it off with looking at todays society and then linking it back to the start of our species, and then describing how you manipulate and apply the principles.

Basically mate I think its going to be full marks or 0 marks.
Author:  gyarados [ Sat May 02, 2009 5:05 am ]
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the neg brings down her self esteem (make her more desperate)
the DHV'ing builds attraction (makes her fancy you)
the false time constraint is to stop her worrying that you are going to be there all night etc.
false disqualifiers work because she feels its safe to talk to you and even if her feelings take control of her and she ends up wanting to sleep with you , "nothing will happen"

the routines are to continue conversation so she feels comfortable around you

its pretty easy to work out how each thing works if you go through each chapter of the game and sit and think about it. right the way up to the bit about blasting LMR which works because in her mind she has resisted so sex isn't her fault :P
Author:  callmecaptain [ Sun May 03, 2009 8:31 am ]
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I think Madals makes a great suggestion.

I remember taking a psychology course at one point in college. There is an actual branch of psychology that is called evolutionary psychology.

The idea that women go for Alpha males is one of the things that is explained by this school of thought.

another thing you may address (and these are my original thoughts) is that pickup actually doesnt do anything other than give you the ability to communicate who you are to other people. When you're an AFC you're still the same guy, you're just really bad at helping women see who you are and as a result not confident about expressing it. PU teaches you how to encode whats in your head into something a woman can decode and respond to. That's what differentiates you from the AFCs. You are able to get through.

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