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| Author: | Fidelity [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:30 am ] |
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Just for some kicks... how do you work game with at a strip club? Very Happy I went one time with my friends because they wanted to go, and it was pretty boring. But in case I go again, what can you talk about to the stripper and is it even possible to get a lay out of one? What routines should you use, what to talk about, some rules etc... Lol. Thanks. |
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| Author: | Hicks [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:52 am ] |
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ok i just PMd you because it said I was too new to the forum to post links, so check your inbox, its a link to exactly what your talking about |
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| Author: | eskwire [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:29 am ] |
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Stripper Game: [credit mystery] Mystery's Stripper Rules ------------------------ (Thank you to Craig for raising the subject of strippers to me.) RULE: Don't let a stripper dance for you. The minute a stripper dances for you (for money), you become their customer and they don't fuck their customers. DON'T let her dance for you - unless it's for free. * RULE: Don't stale out the room. Don't stay in the club too long. 30 minutes ought to be enough time to do what you set out to do. Only extend that time if you are already in a good conversation with a stripper. Initiate a chat faster standing than sitting. Approach a sitting two-set and convey enthusiasm. Be more exciting than any other guy was the entire evening. * RULE: Enthusiasm is contagious. Act enthused about something that happened to you and so will they. E.g.: "Oh my God, guess where we just were? You really missed out hanging here all this time ..." * RULE: Convey that your day has been INCREDIBLE and then proceed to explain WHY. Convey that meeting her is completely secondary. "NOTHING can wreck this day!" Her day was boring compared to yours. When explaining why you had more fun, paint a picture that makes her wish she was with you. "I met and hung out with Brad Pitt. He was really a cool guy." * RULE: Don't buy a stripper a drink. Don't buy ANYONE a drink. Don't buy anyone ANYTHING. Buying things are for good friends and lovers. * RULE: Have a performer image. Appeal to the performer in them. Use Mystery's PHOTO ROUTINE because they are so bored in there a little look at some pix in your pocket is welcome. Let the photos convey you to be a very social and very cool guy. Talk about the excitement of being on stage - identifying with their fears on stage. Get them to think OUTSIDE of the club. When leading their imagination, lead them into DAYLIGHT not NIGHT. Most guys think NIGHT only and convey only this. * RULE: At some point, matter of factly explain that you are well aware that all this is bullshit (pointing to the whole concept of men getting off on strippers) ... it's just an entertainment form and can make good money. Then ... drop the subject and don't talk about her world again. Now bring her to YOUR DAYLIGHT WORLD through imaginative storytelling. RULE: Once she is out to the cafe or food place after, THEN you go VAMPIRE WORLD on her. Strippers generally LOVE the vampire romance shit. Many enjoy alternative lifestyles and ideas. Consider learning about Wicca because many consider themselves Wiccan or Pagan. Don't get suckered into BELIEVING any of the shit of course, but know the basics to bullshit. * RULE: Use a lot of humour. Make her laugh. Laughter is a drug. * RULE: Don't HIT on her. * RULE: Don't compliment her anatomy. * RULE: Treat all strippers as 10's and use a few NEGS as strippers are in a mental state of control while in their own territory. She may only be an 8 in real life but while she works she is the boss and therefore a 10. * RULE: Be slick on the CLOSE and be ready to give her a challenge. Don't be too aggressive. Don't ASK for the number - instead lead them to ask you! "Our knowing each other has nothing to do with this club. I'm going to the IHOP for a bite after - let's continue this conversation there but don't expect much from me - I'm just hungry." Tell her that even though you aren't a customer (you are friends with the DJ), you don't want to exchange numbers inside the club - that way you can tell people you met at IHOP after her work. This club has nothing to do with you and her. Tell her to join you outside of the club to exchange numbers and only when she is in street clothes. * RULE: Don't get HORNY. * RULE: Most strippers are open-minded and believe in incredulous concepts such as ESP and ghosts. Use this for very interesting 'supernatural' conversation threads. Since many strippers believe themselves to be Pagan (and alternative religion), consider wearing a pentacle. Most strippers prefer rock music and long hair on a guy but some like dance music and short hair. Know which of the two generic stripper types you are talking to. It's pretty obvious which is which. * RULE: Be BIG. Strive to be the center of attention. Don't think that the quiet seduction will work in the club. No sexual shit in the club. Once you have intrigued her enough to join you, she's already decided she likes you. * RULE: Make her think that you think she wants you. Assume this and then be a challenge. * RULE: Connect by having a "I live my life one day at a time' attitude. This is to mirror their lifestyle. They ALL live life this way. * RULE: Connect using, "So many people are so judgmental about things. You seem really open and fun." * RULE: Smile all the time. Smile when you walk in and keep it going until you leave. * RULE: Don't drink. * RULE: If a stripper asks, "Would you like a dance?" Don't answer the question. Instead, pattern interrupt her with, "Oh man, I'm not even HERE ... I just got back from a party where Brad Pitt was there. What a great Guy." IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII A Brief Q and A with Mystery on Stripper and Club PUA ----------------------------------------------------- Q: Do you find, staying sober in clubs is the best way to insure PUA skills? A: Real pick up artists don't drink. Clear and simple. They may choose to ACT drunk at times, but that's it. * Q: One factor I've had in the past, both in regular clubs AND strip clubs, is that I feel a BOREDOM factor. BTDT = "Been There, Done That." A: Think how BTDT the girls must feel. It's YOUR job to take them away from this and interrupt their repetition. When you feel bored, decide to attempt a crash and burn (crash and learn) - this is when you notice a situation that looks impossible like a girl is with a guy. Approach and meet the guy. That'll keep you from being bored. * Q: Doesn't anyone else feel this Boredom and nervous feeling about clubs? How can I REFRAME this - so I can go to these fishing grounds confident and productive? A: You are only bored because you aren't approaching. Meet PEOPLE. Not only 10s, but meet them ALL. Make the club YOUR CLUB. * Q: Since I have a photographer friend, is this a good approach? I.e.: I can get you hooked up for modeling work? Are you interested? Isn't this a standard Ross Approach? A: Ross or not, too many people use the "Are you a model" approach, especially in LA. Not only that, but the particularly gorgeous girls already ARE models. Consider bringing pix with you and have the girl enjoy looking through them with you (Mystery's Photo Routine). This is good, but don't suggest taking photos of her until you have a reason to - like you are already getting along with her. * Q: Is this Modeling approach so cliche, so overused by AFCs - that girls reject it? Fact: I get that disbelieving attitude often and it hasn't worked well for me. If so, any new way TO REFRAME the old "Modeling jobs" PU for success? A: Don't bother with the modeling job PU - it's AFC. It doesn't convey your personality. It instead promises something you have no reason to give except that you want to fuck her. Why convey that? By the fact that this approach hasn't worked for you, you should already have your answer. Just show some pix you took. Not a portfolio. Make it look impromptu like you just got them developed today. This is how one uses photos to convey personality. * Q: As time goes on - to me - these clubs get LOUDER AND LOUDER. I hate the ringing in my ears so I have sometimes worn earplugs. Then I feel like a LOSER with something (somewhat visible in my ear). Are earplugs considered a sign of a Loser? In strip clubs, with the volume factor, I rarely sit in the front (at the stage). Is the stage the best place to start in a strip club - because you're more visible? A: My stripper ex-girlfriends (XGFs) all called that area "Pervert's Alley". Sit further back - NEVER sit in the alley. When a stripper approaches you, immediately be interesting by changing the subject to, "Did you know Elvis dyed his hair?" Notice how you are answering her "Would you like a dance?" with a completely off the wall topic. You ZIG and ZAG the conversation this way. Don't give her the stereotypical conversation threads she expects from the next 100 guys she talks to. Entertain her this way. Stay away from asking about HER. Talk about YOU. NEG's are good. Nails and Hair NEG's are good. "Are those nails real? No? Oh. Well ... they're still nice " Then (NEVER get a dance from a girl you WANT) get her OUT of the place. Remind her that you are NOT her customer. Tell her you are friends with the DJ or something and just came to visit. This will put her guard down. You sound like you are already IN. "Oh I'm not a customer." * Q: If you sit at the stage, do you have to at least tip $1 bills to not look like a total loser? A: DO NOT sit at the stage - that's a loser thing to do. Hang with the DJ - meet him by asking him a bunch of questions like, "Hey dude, how did he become a DJ. How do I get a gig like this?" Then hang with him. Build rapport. He is your IN. * Q: Can a PUA NOT tip at all and still be neutral for picking up women? A: DO NOT pay for table dances. I have gotten FREE dances and I'll accept those but that's it. The moment you become a CUSTOMER, it's OVER for you. |
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| Author: | PUAdave [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:55 am ] |
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When I first started getting into the game,I had to sarge alone because if I went out with friends & would get stuck in the comfortzone & it was hard for me to get out of it. I was afraid they would judge me if I got shot down etc. & something about being alone makes you strike up conversations with everyone so you don't look weird, & I had no fear of looking foolish in front of friends. Anyway what I found for me was when I headed out, if I went to a strip club early before I went to my target bar it was a good way to.... #1 get a couple beers in me & loosen up before I walked into the "real" bar #2 get in a talkative mood with hot half naked women because they will come over & open you & pretty much have to talk to you. #3 get comfortable around half naked women #4 by the time I get ready to leave I am always in a charged up horny mood which conveys a sexual state when Im out and about. When I was in there I would practice routines on them, but what I found to be very effective was basically just telling them what I was doing & how I was USING them because some would ask what I was doing alone. I know it was so off the wall from what they expected which was some loser at a strip club by himself that automatically caught them off guard. I unknowingly at the time set the frame that I really didn't need the strip club or stripers but that I was just bored & killing a little time having a couple beers loosening up early & getting in a talkative mood before I headed over to the "real" bar with "real" women that I knew I would meet & WOULD pick up. I even would joke that after I talked to beutiful half naked women the rest of the night was down hill at the real clubs. This not a "real" club, usually took the conversation to a personal level & many strippers would whine about how they wanted to go out on the weekend to "real" clubs like their other friends but were stuck working at the strip club working for a bunch of losers & how they knew they could take them home but never would. I even had a couple girls ask me out for off nights like on tuesdays to go to a club. When they finally asked for a dance I didn't need it & it just strenghtened that I was using them to get talkative & not a loser. |
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| Author: | Novell [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:43 pm ] |
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Before I ventured into PU, I had saw the VH1 episode when they went to the club. And I took that and tried it out with F close success. Basicallly you do this.. Look calm cool and relaxed, not eager for anything. The girls will come to YOU. It's their job. So be open, but not like you've been waiting for her all night. Put yourself in a position to get her. What I did was I did a little story about it being my birthday, and since I don't drink, my friends thought it'd be fun to come here, but they were having more fun than I was and I was kinda bored with the whole scene. That was all I spoke of about the club. Get her to talk about herself. I used the line Mystery said, "So take down your dancer shield, what about YOU should I be interested in?" That takes her out of her, get money, mentatlity and her regualar girl who craves cock mode. Once theirs a little comfort built up, tell her, straight up that you don't plan on getting a dance, but this conversation is mentally stimulating, something you enjoy. Basically, lay down the law..no money for you. If she complies with that, then start up the kino. The stripper I was with sat on my lap from the start. Right on my crotch..and I pushed her to the side of my lap and said, not so fast sweetheart.. But once she gives compliance, escalate kino. Your at the strip club..so you can get away with a little more faster than outside. Stop her and say, "It's a trip to me, how a girl so well rounded, and interesting as you, can make a man hard in a heart beat." I'm interested. At this point, if game has been ran right she'll be flattered and attracted and offer you a dance. Walk back with her..arm in arm. Then when you sit down..say. I'm not letting you hustle me honey..I already told you I'm not the type to pay for things like this. That's when the free goodies come to play. I learned this next trick in field. When she's dancing..don't just sit back and chill. Get into it! Grind her back..slap her ass..pull her hair..everything. Just like your fucking her. She'll go crazy over this. And if game has been executed correctly. It's a wrap. Leave her after the dance. She'll be all over you the rest of the night. Get her number and say call me as sooon as you get off. Bing Bang Boom. Novell. |
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| Author: | Sexcellent [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:20 pm ] |
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awesome thread. stripper game always intrigued me, and now i finally know how to do it. |
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| Author: | Sixady [ Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:59 am ] |
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lol i cant see any enjoyment in strip club game. i feel like i could honestly find as hot girls anywhere else... but i geuss its the challenge |
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| Author: | Reo [ Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:48 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: Once theirs a little comfort built up, tell her, straight up that you don't plan on getting a dance, but this conversation is mentally stimulating, something you enjoy.Basically, lay down the law..no money for you
This is poor advice when you flat out tell a dancer, "No" you become labeled as a broke ass, word will spread around to the other girls you're a broke ass trust me you won't be winning any friends there. That'll get you run up out of that place.You're supposed to completely change the subject and take her mind of the fact she even asked for a dance. Or you tell them your not a customer you came here to see someone. Quote: If she complies with that, then start up the kino. No!!! don't touch the women. Why because customers touch the girls all night your goal to set yourself apart from the average customer there. Quote: The stripper I was with sat on my lap from the start. Right on my crotch..and I pushed her to the side of my lap and said, not so fast sweetheart..
Once again No, you shouldn't be positioned to where they can sit on your lap you need to be standing up peferably near the bar. so you have a safety net between you and them so you can brush off their touches. Just because they touch you doesn't mean they like you touch is a dancers most powerful weapon.But once she gives compliance, escalate kino.. A weak willed individual will give in once a girl starts feeling on them. The worst part about letting them sit on your lap is since you're not paying for any dances, you're going to have to push her off your lap which immediately says I'm a Broke ass. Quote: At this point, if game has been ran right she'll be flattered and attracted and offer you a dance. Walk back with her..arm in arm. Then when you sit down..say. I'm not letting you hustle me honey..I already told you I'm not the type to pay for things like this. Yea right.... its not likely the girl will offer you a free dance, it can happen but its mostly wishful thinking. There's a way to get a lap dance not at your expense but i'll save that secret for another time. Quote: I learned this next trick in field. When she's dancing..don't just sit back and chill. Get into it! Grind her back..slap her ass..pull her hair..everything. Just like your fucking her. She'll go crazy over this. And if game has been executed correctly. It's a wrap. Leave her after the dance. She'll be all over you the rest of the night. Get her number and say call me as sooon as you get off. Bing Bang Boom. NO!! i really can't comment on this part because its all rediculous fantasy at this point. but once you start grabbing and grinding on the girls you look just like another customer. And dont ask a dancer for her number its probably fake. Unless she freely offers it. You want to meet them outside the club that same night and you can't do this during a weekend when they're making there big money, must be a slow week day monday-thursday. Gaming a erotic dancer runs much deeper than this there's way too much to post at post |
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