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| Author: | Ezo [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Too alpha, too macho, threatening? |
Guys, I realize that I might have found a new problem... I did not think it could be a problem but here I am. This is to share knowledge and experience... I normally peacock like a rockstar. Sunglasses, fancy clothes, Mystery style. This worked like a charm up until a few weeks ago. I realized that when I went into a set they actually took a step back (in fear)! In fear!!! Ok, I know what I am doing, I do open over the shoulder, I do go indirect, I have several hundred approaches which have mostly been successful. I tried to analyze what it was that I did wrong and I could only come up with one answer: I went totally over the top, too alpha, too macho. My former stages of PUAhood needed heavy peacocking to compensate for my lack of inner game. Now I have inner game worked out and in combination with peacocking I come across as trouble. Granted, some girls really like it but the small little innocent ones get freaked out. This made me realize that maybe as you progress with your skills and your inner game you outgrow your initial "training wheels". The path to PUAhood is not straight, you do not only improve, you also have periods where you get worse at it, you face new problems. I think this is because you outgrow your present gameplan. As we grow as PUAs we HAVE to modify our game. The artificial mojo (peacocking, negs, etc etc.) do not just stop being necessary, it can actually have a negative impact on your game. It CAN become Too tryhard. Ezo |
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| Author: | slyguy [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:49 am ] |
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this is interesting, i've been at college for 3 years now and up until now i've been out of the game. about a week or two ago i grew a set and got back into it. i had gotten no female validation until last nite on anything i was doing, and the girl actually said i come on "really strong". this is understandable since i havent had sex in over a year and am eager to get some, but it was a surprise to me for her to say that, but its good at the same time b/c now i can gauge how im coming off a little better |
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| Author: | SsHhAaKkEeRr [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Great Stuff |
I'm not sayin that any of this is right for everyone else, but I figure if I put out there how I felt I was affected then something good can come of it. The peacocking: I found that the solution to that problem came when I realized my natural game began to improve and I ran into the same problem. But instead of removing it from my game I toned it back. Just enough to get attention within a set or around a couple of sets, but not as much as to attract attention at the door. Heres the thing about comming on too strong with peacocking. Intuition. Women score high points in that area. See when you lack confidence, it can be sensed, but the fact that you can overcome that lack of confidence is what stands out as a mask of confidence (false confidence) which can throw wrenches in women's receptors (intutition). Once you've got the confidnce through validation and success with women, that confidence radiates and women pick up on that too. So when a woman senses a man who is confident she may ask herself "Why does he need to wear that?" "What's he trying to prove?" "Is he trying to make a statement? I don't get it." This is because her intuition in tandem with your non-verbal signals tells her you are a confident man. A man who is not confident however, may not realize that he is inadvertently "jamming her radar". Her intuition is thrown for a loop because she didnt sense initial genuine confidence, but she can see it with her eyes. Women use (subconciously) 14 to 16 parts of their brain to pick up on non-verbal communication and use that "sixth sense". Why? Because by nature they are nuturing creatures that need to know how to pick up on non-verbal communication. Babies don't talk. This is an inherent thing. So when it's thrown for a loop they may think "This guys seems pretty cool." "He must not care what anyone thinks." They read this as confidence because they cannot pick up on your "natural game" or "inner game" with that sixth sense. So again, my solution was, as my natural game improved and my confidence started to radiate I no longer needed to hide behind a false confidence. I know people can still get away with it, like Mystery, but each of us is different. I like the training wheels analogy, very true. Once you have the confidence to ride the bike on your own you no longer need the wheels or the father holding your seat. Once you build your own identity you find you dont have to care about things like huge hats and black nail polish. So this is just one man's opinion, but take from it what you will. Happy hunting gents! |
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| Author: | Myth [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:34 pm ] |
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Interesting theory. You have some good points, post how it goes when you turn down the peacocking |
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| Author: | SsHhAaKkEeRr [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Given Up The P-Cock |
Well I'm not currently in a situation where I can go out sarging. See I am deployed, but I've been studying a lot of stuff and gaming girls around me just for practice and amazingly they are completely aware of what I am doing and actually help me out. So my confidence is through the roof. I just dress up mafia style man, I shop at Express primarily, but I keep it casual to formal and even mix it up. I keep it masculine though, there are a few outfits there that are questionable. lol. But overall that's my favorite store. For a more formal-casual mix hit up places like JC Penny, Nordstrom, ect and combine shit from there with places like american eagle, A&F, etc. |
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| Author: | Dr_Swing [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:39 pm ] |
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Hey mate, I have to admit this has happened to me more then once - i go for the rocker style too, shades necklaces yada yada... And i still havent got my inner game good enough to ease on it. I solved it to some extent when i bought an old hippie necklace with a hand doing the peace sign, but it still does seem to intimadate alot of girls. This may also mainly be beacause all clubs worth a visit where i live are hardcore-hip hop joints. Try to reinvent something if your afraid your peacocking scares girls off though i guess would be my only advice. I could probably take a lesson from reading responses to this thread so i'll be sure to stop by a few more times. Good luck mate. |
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| Author: | DontBeFickle [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:54 pm ] |
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totally agree with this post. when you come in outdressing everyone else, it makes you seem immortal, lol jk...to an extent...: | depends which sets you open like you said. some girls like it, the more confident ones for sure. |
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