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Author:  Warrior_Helvetio [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:21 am ]
Post subject:  Harem management (introduction of myself and a question)

Hi Guys,

This is my first post to this forum.
I will briefly describe myself and my current situation and then ask a question to those of you that have a similar situation to mine.

I consider myself quite an advanced PUA. I have read many of the well-known books on seduction. I have been very successful at fclosing with attractive young women for a long time now. At this point, I have pretty much reached equilibrium with what I consider to be my ideal lifestyle routine with women (harem of 7 women rotating one per each night of the week and occasional upgrades to the "weakest link"). I guess this sounds quite unemotional and ruthless. However, I treat the women very well during the time I spend with them.

I have been managing a 7women/7nights of the week harem of women now for several months. Each woman has her own night of the week and she comes over to my place at around 8:00pm for a few hours of sex and then leaves at about 11:30pm.

This has been working out quite well. I have also made replacements/upgrades since getting filling all 7 weekly slots late last year.

QUESTION:
Has anyone else set up a similar arrangement/routine with a similar number of women? I would like to discuss some of the finer details of this routine (recruitment, replacement frequency, etc.).

Author:  Methuselah [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:58 am ]
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Yeah. I know what your dealing with. Whats your questions?

Author:  Warrior_Helvetio [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:12 am ]
Post subject:  Methuselah (Re. Harem management)

Quote:
Yeah. I know what your dealing with. Whats your questions?
Methuselah,

Thanks for your post.

More than having any specific question answered, I really just wanted to get a feel for how this works for other guys. No one I know personally has this much regular and systematic sex as I do now so I feel like I am breaking new ground. However, I know that there must be many successful PUAs out there that have set up the same arrangements I have (there was even that guy written about in "The Game" that referred to each of his weekly evening girlfiends, "Monday", "Tuesday', etc.).

I am just looking for ways to increase the efficiency of the arrangement and to be on the lookout for potential problems that may arise. Basically I just want to compare notes and learn from others.

For starters (questions):
1) How many women per week do you meet regularly for sex?
2) How did you meet them?
3) How did you get them to agree to the arrangement?
4) What are the drawbacks (problems) that you have encountered?
5) How do you manage upgrades/replacements?
6) What do you think the future will lead to (do women eventually get tired and move on? My experience is not, they seem to get hooked on the arrangement after a few weeks). As we get older as men does our sexual energy capacity drop such that there are "too many" women per week?
7) Etc. (I am basically looking to learn as much as I can about all aspects from other guys who have created the same "weekly harem"routine.)

Author:  Methuselah [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:47 pm ]
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Since I'm at work I'm going to reply several times, just editing my original post each time. Also, I think this conversation will be useful to everyone in the forum - not just you an I - I'm going to repost the original questions under a new more specific topic.

Author:  Warrior_Helvetio [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Excellent idea, Methuselah. Thanks!

Quote:
Since I'm at work I'm going to reply several times, just editing my original post each time. Also, I think this conversation will be useful to everyone in the forum - not just you an I - I'm going to repost the original questions under a new more specific topic.
Excellent!
I am very much looking forward to getting more feedback on this area.
There are almost an infinite number of points I would like to "compare notes" on with others that have the same arrangements and goals.

Thank you, Methuselah. I hope you live past 969 years old. Maybe you can be the first 1,000 year old human! Technology is improving all the time.

Truly,
W. Helv.

Author:  Methuselah [ Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:18 am ]
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Your the first motherfucker to know what my name actually means. I'm impressed.

Kudos my friend. Kudos.

Author:  Warrior_Helvetio [ Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:11 am ]
Post subject:  Methuselah: Great name!

Quote:
Your the first motherfucker to know what my name actually means. I'm impressed.

Kudos my friend. Kudos.
Ha, you would not believe it but I have donated an enormous amount of money to the Methuselah Foundation. It is my favorite charity. They do scientific research into longevity.

I am new to these forums so please tell me; am I framing my question in the wrong terminology (MLTRs or MFBs rather than "Weekly Harem", etc.)? I expected that there would be more people with feedback so far. Especially given the title of this forum. Is it the slow traffic time of the week on this board or is my question an "odd-ball" one?

Author:  Warrior_Helvetio [ Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:17 am ]
Post subject:  Reputation points

By the way, Methuselah, after your second feedback post to my post I tried to give you maximum reputation points but the system would not allow me to give anything due to my score being below 1. I owe you some points later when I have some. I guess this is sort of like paying by credit card for now!

Author:  alinajoseph [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:40 am ]
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hey guys thanks.....
give me more details....

Author:  Monkey [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:25 am ]
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Holy necroposting, SPAM!

Lookit the date on the last post. June, 2007. Methuselah was banned from the forum nearly two years ago, and has been in jail for nearly a year, now. I have no idea what happened to Warrior Helvetio.

To provide the necropost with something useful, however, I'll answer Helvetio's initial questions for myself. As I recall, I was avoiding anything Meth posted on at the time, because I thought he was a douche (that changed with time, and most of the guys who are new here would do well to go back and read everything he's written).

1) I usually maintain three girlfriends at a time. That's my comfortable number, and I find my schedule gets too cramped when there are more. There needs to be some flexibility to shift days around when life gets in the way of sex, as happens far more often than it should be allowed. Also, I tend to keep a "main" girlfriend, who I see much more often than the other two, but that's more a natural progression in my relationships than something I plan for.

2) I make plans, and then we go and do that thing that was planned. One of the benefits of having a more flexible schedule is that you can bring any one of your girls to a Thing. Sometimes I'll pick the girl I've spent the least time with to invite first, sometimes just whoever I prefer to see that day.

3) Open, honest communication cannot be stressed enough. Polyamorous people need to blast the lines of communication open, and then trim them constantly to make sure they stay clear. You need to clearly state the most important of your expectations and make it very clear that you will brook no argument in the matter. If a girl wants to be with me, she must accept that she is not the only woman I will be seeing, she must accept that she cannot see me all the time and she must accept that I will tolerate a minimum of drama related from these two facts. If she does not accept those things, she and I will not be seeing one another, and she misses out on mind-blowing cunnilingus skills.

4) The biggest problem with multiple relationships is bad communication, followed closely by mistakes in booking. The first is typically a problem on the girls' side; they are willing to commit to something when it's just words, but the reality of the situation is far less appealing, and you will often have women backing out of your arragentment. That's fine, you can always find new girls. Worse, is when a girl tries to alter the nature of the agreement; you need to keep a firm hand in this, because problems in one relationship will often mushroom to involve your other relationships. When a girl tries to alter the nature of your social contract, you need to re-establish your expectations, and make it clear that the relationship will only continue for as long as those expectations are met. Also, you need to have some pretty solid scheduling abilities to pull this off. At first, I did not, and that resulted in some ridiculous amounts of drama. I muddled through it, though, and I made damned certain that I learned to schedule things more effectively.

5) I can't say as I've ever considered any of my girls upgradable or replaceable. New relationships start as they do, and old ones die off as well. I have found that I am much less willing to put myself out there when my comfortable number is reached. I'll flirt, but adding one new person to my life is a pretty remarkable event; it shakes shit up, and it makes my life unmanageable for a bit, something I tend to be very uncomfortable with. When a relationship dies off, though (and that's usually more of a casual tapering more than a big dramatic thing; mains are a little different in that regard), room suddenly becomes available, and I can fill the time that would normally be spent with that girl by looking for another girl to fill the gap.

6) I'm a lot older than most of the new kids coming into the art (the median age seems to be around 20), and I can say that my sexual appetites are nowhere near seven girls a week. I couldn't do it. My cock is sometimes rebellious of the punishment dealt out by three. Oftentimes, I'm sore after a single session with _one_ girl, and need a day to recuperate. Also, there's shit that I like to do that has nothing to do with getting laid. I like to play games. I have a pretty active social calendar that has nothing to do with meeting women. Sometimes I like to read a fucking book. So having a girl over every day of the week is completely infeasable to me. Even at four, I find that my "alone time" and the time that I spend with my friends begins to suffer for it.

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