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Author:  dark one [ Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:  How to tell a girl don't want a relationship....but?

I have just started dating a girl in my college class and she is a really cool girl! but I have come to the realization that I am not ready to settle down yet....I love hanging out with her! and I even stoped us from having sex because I care about her and dont want to hurt her....but I know I am not ready for any thing serious and she deff. is! in fact I think she thinks that I am looking for a relationship....

So how do I tell her I dont want a relationship with our making her up set....by the way this girl has a temper like no other! haha I do like going to her house and hanging out, and I think she would make a great gf....but Im not ready.

Author:  QuarterBack [ Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:46 am ]
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Similar situation with me recently. I 'gamed' a girl because my friends literally told me that I "couldn't handle her."

I let my ego get the best of me and brought in my A game. Made her fall head over heels for me... She admitted to it after awhile and I had to let her down.

I'm having too much fun right now single.

I basically told her I couldn't commit to a relationship right now. To do so would cheat her out of a quality experience because I wouldn't be fully devoted. "I'm only telling you this because you've been such an awesome girl here lately and you deserve to be treated the best. Right now I can't give that to you. I really want to, but I know I can't." I told her more things along that line - which was the truth but worded nicely.

She told me she can't be mad at me for that (because at least I told her the truth and I told her before things got too serious). In fact, she said she likes and respects me even more.

--QB

Author:  RTTastic [ Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:55 am ]
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I'm agreeing with Quarterback here. As long as you tell her the truth NOW instead of leading her on, you'll be fine. And you did the right thing not sleeping with her while knowing this, because it would have made her grow more attached and invest even more into you. Kudos.

Author:  QuarterBack [ Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:08 pm ]
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I'm agreeing with Quarterback here. As long as you tell her the truth NOW instead of leading her on, you'll be fine. And you did the right thing not sleeping with her while knowing this, because it would have made her grow more attached and invest even more into you. Kudos.
Yep. John 8:32

It might be an uncomfortable thing to say at first but it's a huge load off your chest when you actually do it.

--QB

Author:  Brad- [ Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:43 am ]
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Here's how I handled MULTIPLE fuck buddy/LTR type relationships...

It's for an article in an upcoming rsdnation.com ...

ENJOY
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7 Hot Tips for the Wannabe Ladiesman


It’s every man’s dream.

Having your cake and eating it too.

I’m talking about a drama free environment of multiple non-exclusive relationships with HOT girls.


But where to start? Have you ever actually met anyone who has been able to pull it off?

Lucky for you, I’ve gone through the process multiple times. I’ll help you avoid the common pitfalls guys encounter when diving into the world of multiple girlfriends.

The thing I see over and over is the dissonance between what you want and what you project. Looking for a girl you can randomly hookup with, no strings attached, but unintentionally projecting “monogamous vibes” onto the relationship.

This is because main-stream media only gives examples of relationships where sex = monogamy.

Over time I have come to realize that women are just as interested in these types of relationships as men. It’s just the way men come across. It is easy to see why girls expect more out of the relationship, because the man is projecting through his mannerisms and actions boyfriend type “vibes.”

Utilizing these techniques will instill certain patterns that lead to naturally conveying the right qualities. They are very effective, but you don’t want to be a social robot. Be flexible.

Each tip is beneficial when starting out, but after a while your subcommunications will be congruent with what these rules are trying to convey and they won’t be as necessary.


1. Don't meet up with the girl more than once a week.

If you can keep the relationship to only meeting up once a week, you mitigate the chances of it escalating into something more serious. It keeps the relationship moving at a very slow pace, and neither of you are going to develop a deep emotional connection.

It is a hard-wired human trait that the more time spent with someone, the more pair bonding takes place, where there is an actual chemical dependency between the two of you. It is inevitable that the relationship will head in a traditional direction if you see each other too much. And what happens with a traditional BF/GF relationship? Exclusivity.

Also, don’t text/call the girl EVERY day. You don’t want her thinking about you day in and day out. It causes positive feedback loops where she is continuously picturing the two of you together, and will try to make her thoughts into a reality.


2. Don't fall into the traditional frame of buying her gifts, going to dinner, meeting the parents, holding hands, etc.

Basically what a lot of these rules accomplish is that you are trying to keep the relationship out of traditional boyfriend-girlfriend zone. The more actions you do that can be considered boyfriend/girlfriend actions, the more likely she will think you two ARE in a serious relationship.

This also pertains to how you act with your mutual friends and when going out to bars/clubs together. Treat her like every other friend, and DON’T GET JEALOUS if she is talking to other guys.

You aren’t exclusive with her, so why should she have to be? Just because you meet each other out doesn’t GUARANTEE that you are going to end up together at the end of the night. If she ends up with some one else, it shouldn’t affect you.


3. Be discrete.

Don’t flaunt your successes. No matter if it’s just with your friends or other girls, it’s a bad idea. Word will spread that you “kiss and tell,” and if any girl sleeps with you, a lot of people are going to find out about it.

You might be wondering, “But how am I supposed to be considered the ‘sex-worthy’ guy if no one knows it?”

It is SUBCOMMUNICATED. It’s pretty obvious based on how often you see the girl, and the way you act around her that you have lots of options, and are probably seeing multiple women.
4. Don't worry about the “relationship talk” until it comes up. NEVER be the one to bring it up.

I hear it over and over... “What do I do when she asks what are we? Let’s be boyfriend-girlfiend?”

Follow my advice, it’s a non-issue until it becomes one. Don’t worry about.

Some people suggest proactively telling the girl what your intentions are…

Well, unless the girl is VERY non traditional and sexually open, you are going to have a lot fewer options, because most girls just aren’t willing to frame the relationship in that way.

It’s more of a tacit understanding. It doesn’t need to get talked about until things reach a point where one of you builds a strong enough emotional attachment that you desire more from the relationship.


5. When “the talk” does come up, be honest.

Don’t lie to her about how you view the relationship. Be straight forward, and don’t pussyfoot around. Honesty is key.

You probably really enjoy her company, the sex is probably pretty good, but you aren’t in a place in your life where you want a serious relationship right now.

This is not some line, but actually the headspace I am in when this discussion comes up.

EXTRA:

Two questions that girls ask, that they NEVER want answered…

“How many girls have you been with?”
“Have you been with any other girls since we started hooking up?”

I am all for the authentic/genuine guy thing, but certain things are just going to destroy the relationship. How do you answer these properly?

Girl: How many girls have you been with?
YOU: I understand what you are trying to ask. Don’t worry I have always been safe and am tested.

Girl: Are you hooking up with any other girls?
YOU: Girl, I have been so busy, I don’t even have time to THINK about other girls…

-Again, it’s tacitly subcommunicated that you are seeing other girls, no need to verbalize it and hurt the woman’s feelings.


6. Don't flirt with other girls in front of her unless going for a threesome.

It's cool to talk to girls, just don't actively flirt and start making out with someone in front of her. It's mean and tacky.

Jealousy plotlines and the like are great during the initial interaction, but if you already sleeping together, there is no need to bring jealousy into the relationship.

You should be SUBCOMMUNICATING plenty of non-neediness and being “a man of many options” because you are sleeping with multiple women. No need to flaunt it in her face.

Also, if you already have multiple girls, why are you in such a hurry to go out and meet more when you’re with one of your girlfriends? It smells of insecurity, and an addiction to pickup. Compartmentalize your nights of cold approaching and the nights spent out with your girl, which I know is easier said than done.


7. Use distance to end the relationship.

Girls are smart. They more than likely have broken up with multiple guys in there lifetime. This might be a new circumstance for you.

All you really need to do is distance yourself from the girl. Don’t attempt to meet up with her, and stop calling and texting. She will get the point quickly.

You are basically putting her into the “friend zone.” The sexual tension just dissipates over time and it turns into more of a friendship than a sexual relationship.

The thing you don’t want to do is completely cut off the conversation. If she texts you, respond with something benign. Don’t egg her on and get sexual or flirty.

What you are trying to avoid is completely shutting her out of your life, burning bridges and never talking to each other again. By keeping things open and friendly you have the opportunity to hook up again somewhere down the line if you happen to run into each other…

Conclusion:

Realize that these types of relationships are more natural and commonplace than you would expect. It’s just something that isn’t talked about because verbalizing it goes against some of the core tenets of how these relationships form.

Stick to the rules, but be flexible as you get more experience and see where it leads.

Welcome to the secret society.

Author:  dark one [ Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:24 pm ]
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good stuff guys! now i just need to get the balls to tell her this to her face....Its not that Im afraid of her its more that I know she likes me alot and I feel like I might have been leading her on.....she just stayed over last night and had she not been drunk I prob would have said somthing.

Iduno.

Author:  KristallNachte [ Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to tell a girl don't want a relationship....but?

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I even stoped us from having sex because I care about her
I'm gonna take a line from Choke for this one:

Why do you feel the two have to be mutually exclusive?

Author:  dark one [ Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:25 pm ]
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Because shes a nice girl and I care about her....she has done nothing wrong so why should I upset her?

I think Im going to distance my self from her for a little while to see how she reacts....and then when she contacts me I will tell her how I feel. I want to see how bad she likes me because I do like her but Im not sure that Im the guy for her right now.

Author:  KristallNachte [ Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:31 pm ]
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You're being very AFC. You'll never know if it'll work if you don't just go for it.

and a Freeze-out isn't gonna do what it seems you want it to do.

Author:  Artax [ Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:00 pm ]
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The more time I spend on these boards, the more sense Johnny Soporno makes.

Author:  QuarterBack [ Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:02 pm ]
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Because shes a nice girl and I care about her....she has done nothing wrong so why should I upset her?

I think Im going to distance my self from her for a little while to see how she reacts....and then when she contacts me I will tell her how I feel. I want to see how bad she likes me because I do like her but Im not sure that Im the guy for her right now.
Freeze-out doesn't work at all. Because afterall "distance makes the heart grow fonder."

Not telling her because you're scared is the opposite of alpha male...

You should practice this because if you keep it up, it's gonna happen more and more in the future. Honesty gets easier over time.

--QB

Author:  daggaz [ Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:06 pm ]
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Erm.... why not just ask her how she feels and what she wants? Ive been in so many situations where its all just gotten so much better after a little heart to heart, open discussion. Seems like you dont exactly know how much of a relationship she wants.

Maybe she is just having the time of her life, its a great kick, but isnt really thinking of popping babies out left and right and tying the knot? Hell, maybe she is happy just the way things are?

Worse comes to worse, and she is head over heels in love with you, then you know it, and then you do the right thing and explain what your limits are at this point in time. You will both be better off for it.

Sometimes they cry (it sucks) but I have never had a girl hate me or even be angry at me for breaking it off with the "Im just not ready for this kind of thing right now" speech. They invariably appreciate the honesty, and the fact that you are minimizing the eventual impact of the breakup.

As for the whole distance thing, dont do that. Just be direct and approach her (man its the same game as opening), you will spare her the self doubt, worry, and fear. You will spare yourself the time waiting and stewing over the problem.

Author:  dark one [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:29 am ]
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Ok thanks alot guys....somtimes we need a slap in the face haha and I agree Im just going to ask her what she wants out of the relationship and then let her know how I feel.

Author:  supaflya3 [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:57 am ]
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Im in a similar situation, Ive been dating the girl 2 months now and I was her first. Im on the border right now on what to do, shes a cool girl and all but I miss the game how should I let her know I dont want this relationship anymore

Author:  dark one [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:22 am ]
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Ye man this girl is solid but Im just not into it like she is....I really enjoy hanging out with her but I cant lead her on much more.

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