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| Author: | smartass [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:15 am ] |
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5 hours to cram as much PUA knowledge into a person, and have it *stick*... assuming they know how to open but nothing else.... what would you recommend? Would you focus on routines? Anything specific? DHV stories? Would you focus on body language? Would you focus on dress and appearance? Random cocky/funny lines? Help me out guys, I now have 4 hours and 55 minutes... lol... j/k... but I'm trying to prepare someone for tonight. |
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| Author: | Plethora [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:28 am ] |
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I would focus on reframing him. Giving him clear roles to the interaction and positive affirmations to internalize. I would share a bunch of quotes, truisms, and psychological facts that I know which would help lower his anxiety and make the experience seem more pleasant. I might give him an opener, but beyond that I wouldn't tell him any routines at all. I would try to get him to view any interaction from an alpha-male's perspective of abundance and acting without care of the woman's reaction. Above all I would make sure he was doing it to have fun and be friendly. With the other four and a half hours I would just joke around and give little body language tips as well as cues that women give off. If he's framed right, then his game will take care of itself. |
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| Author: | Rye Lee [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:38 am ] |
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I'd probably spend more time de-programming them of all the negative things they believe and replacing them with positive ideas about what they're capable of. Then throw in some body language and communication coaching. |
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| Author: | jurupa [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:07 am ] |
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I would focus mostly on body language because out of everything there is to PUA, I have to say that is the biggest. |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:35 am ] |
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5 hours isn't long enough to program or deprogram. Guys, most people can't do this with a LIFETIME let alone a few hours. A five hour tutorial begins with a slap on the face, "DO NOT think. I don't want you to tell me you think this or you think that. Instead, you follow my commands." Then you teach him, when to join, when to leave. At the club, you give him a little nudge to open this group or that group. You go over a few stories/routines and have the guy repeat it over, over, and over again. You tell him to put his hands up during certain parts of the routine. You tell the guy to turn his head when he's doing the boxing story or whatever. This is going to be some serious monkey see money do, follow every step exactly as I show it. You do the 5 hour tutorial so that 5 hours and 1 minute later, he can go in and enjoy some statistical success. So the guy goes out and uses at most 3 different routines you made up for him, over, over, and over again. If I'm winging him, opening up a few sets for him, and supporting him here and there, I could probably get just about any guy to collect over 10 numbers on a crowded night in any bar or club around the World. Every time he succeeds, he gets a high five. Every time he fails, he gets feedback. You just keep rolling. If he seeks enlightenment, he won't find it in 5 hours. |
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| Author: | Jaybot [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:06 pm ] |
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I would tell them the set of rules I wrote down when I started learning all this (I'll hunt for them later). Then just chill and make a few approaches, no pressure type. Once they got some results they would be in the zone and ready to go, although this would be a very temporary thing, so I would probably record their efforts and go through it with them then let them keep the tapes. |
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| Author: | Brenoporra [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:42 pm ] |
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well Id tell about the basic guidelines and why they're true a basic introduction on how puas see and live his life and how AFC is a fucking loser that would be better of killing himself non-needyness the power of confidence being high value, the 'prize' being cocky and funny you know, but just the ideia and filosophy so he can understand, then throw some examples and stop there, you can't go afc/dlv/amog/eyecontat/esp and all this 'technical' stuff cause it will just fill the guys head and he wont be able to do shit with so much to think about, just make sure he gets the point and throw in some examples |
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| Author: | Fair_Rose [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:37 pm ] |
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I'd spend twenty mins. teaching him frame control. The next 4 hours and forty mins. would be spent in-field failing set after set. By 2 1/2 hours something would click and my boy would be on his to calibration. Opening wouldn't be a problem because shit... we've been flamed out for the past eight sets. PUA Mastery is all about Frame Control & Calibration. Everything esle is just reading material. |
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| Author: | [Vegas] [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:36 pm ] |
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Quote: I'd spend twenty mins. teaching him frame control. The next 4 hours and forty mins. would be spent in-field failing set after set. By 2 1/2 hours something would click and my boy would be on his to calibration. Opening wouldn't be a problem because shit... we've been flamed out for the past eight sets.
I would do something similar to that. I mean everyone has their own style and who ever I was "training" would need to find their own maybe with a little help. I would point out a set and have him or her open it. I would let him or her do their thing and once/if they get blown out I would help analyze what went wrong. After correcting, I would point out another set... and etc. Eventually, who ever I was "training" would get a grip on what to do and what not to do. Best way to learn = practice.
PUA Mastery is all about Frame Control & Calibration. Everything esle is just reading material. |
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| Author: | Sincerelee [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:05 pm ] |
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I'd tell them about the positive benefits of PUA, until they accept it enough to try it. Then I would give them one specific thing to learn for each step in a seduction path. It would all be canned, but it would be enough to get them all the way through so it inspires them to learn this further. 1. Approach "Hey quick question. I have a friend who's girlfriend is having a birthday. She is sexy, so I want to compliment that, but I don't want to send the wrong message and upset my buddy.. What do you suggest?" 2. Transition "That is so cool! Are you adventurous enough to ever wear that?" 3. Qualify "I have done some pretty risky stuff like the training I did as a volunteer fireman, but I would draw the line at that." 4. Disqualify "You and I would never get along." 5. Comfort "But you are cool people. We could hang out together. I would introduce you to some pretty wild stuff. I would push your reality far beyond what you have experienced so far." 6. Seduction "How good of kisser are you? On a scale of 1 to 10?...Let's find out." Once he got these canned things down, I would talk to him about his inner game, about how he is unique, and so long as he presents his uniqueness in a fun and exciting way, women will want to get to know him more. I would finally talk about the four things that demonstrate higher value, I would teach him how though I gave him specific words that are effective, once he is comfortable doing PUA, he should develop lines that are true to his real life, and finish by explaining how if he avoids showing neediness, she will give him what he wants. |
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