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Author:  Grape [ Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Grape's eBook of 2008

I just spent a couple of hours compiling all the posts I made in 2008 that I thought were pretty useful.
As you observe the dates of each post, you'll realize the ideas they present are slightly different, but I didn't want to re-edit them.

So.. tell me what you think!!

<33 Grape

http://ap-seduction.net/grapes-ebook-of-2008/
e-Book ^^

Author:  GQute [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:09 am ]
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I like the effort put into this. You tried to cover a lot of key points and got the just of the lot of them. I do feel however that this is somewhat basic, and will do the most benefit to those very new and very afc. I also have to respectfully disagree on your view of hb10's not having bitch shields. As their way of trying to ignore an afc, or remove themselves from the situation is a reserved bitch shield in which then, they meet their friends and talk about the "loser" who just tried to pick them up.

But I have to give you props for the last two pages because I think that is some of the most important stuff that anyone should remember when sarging. The concept of your of needing a clear set goal of what you want to do with a target I can vouch for. At a point in time I had the attitude of "let's see what I can get" and it was hit or miss how I did. But when I go out with the perspective that "I am going to get this", my success more than doubles. Also I agree about women's sexuality and love the way you defined the anti-slut defense that triggers in a female's brain. If you give the woman the choice to how far things go, she will most likely cut you short of a f-close. But if you take the reins, she will be much more willing to follow all the way with you.

Overall, nice work grape. If you're going to work on another book, I would just possibly enter some more specifics such as good examples of an opener or routine, so that people who are new can really gain alot from it.

Thanks for the read,
~GQute

Author:  GQute [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:18 am ]
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Also...
I have just started something similar in which I will be focusing more on creating specific examples for AFC's to learn from while simoultaneously keeping field reports that others can directly learn from.

I plan on having a resources section in the back so that anyone who wants more help on something will have an easy place to refer to, so they can find what they are looking for. Would you allow me to include the URL to your ebook? (My guide will not be for sale but free to the community, so don't worry about that)

Author:  madals [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:47 am ]
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I'll be honest that i skimmed over most of it, mainly to see if anything stood out.
There was a few good things in there, a few things i disagree with but I did feel it was very much you putting things already known into your own words (which is fine in my opinion).
It would be more useful in the newbie section in my opinion.

Madals

Author:  Grape [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:46 pm ]
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Yeah, they're all just my experiences after learning, I joined the community last February and I feel like I grew because I was just an rAFC and now I've covered all the basic stuff. Most of it was inner game and basic social circle game tools, but that's what's important in high school =]
As you may have noticed, I rarely offered 'canned lines' but mere examples because I want to teach social psychology and inner game so the people who have just joined the community that are reading can get into the path of becoming a natural instead of a manipulator.

Thanks for your opinions guys,
<33 Grape

EDIT: and yes, feel free to use my URL :]

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