PUA Forum :: Tyler Durden in "The Game"

Sup guys, Ive been wondering for along time is TD a creepy douche? Thats how he came across in the book and in his style. Hve any of you met him? Do you get the same "vibe" about him or am I wrong?

I think the reason style hates TD is because he is sorta the "anti-game" he teaches more inner game than spitting a routine.

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I think the reason style hates TD is because he is sorta the "anti-game" he teaches more inner game than spitting a routine.

Actually, RSD was founded on the exact same principles as Mystery's. I wasn't there, but I think he did rip Mystery's material off quite a bit. He even named his company "Real Social Dynamics" at the time where Mystery's school was called "Social Dynamics." (I'm not pointing any fingers. I have no idea what the relationship between Mystery and TD was so I have no idea how much of a slap in the face his actions were.) It is only until recently, with The Blueprint, that he adapted the 'anti-game' stuff that you mentioned.

I don't dislike him. I don't dislike anyone I haven't met. I agree with a lot of his material, so in that sense I like his work.

Thanks alot guys for the info. I only had the one point of view to go on. His work is good. He just came off in the book as a douche but I will trust Brad cause he has met him and doesnt seem like the type to hang with an ass. Does TD have a post somewhere with his reaction/ thoughts on the book/Style?

i only read the book recently but the impression i got of tyler was a complete wanker, number one rule in the bro code if there ever was one is to never dog your mates, he was constantly cutting the other guys grass and ruining there routine because he was to shit to do it properly. style and mystery took him and papa under there wing, came up with project hollywood, then TD and papa fucked them over. i couldnt stand him in the book.

I've crashed on Tyler's couch for a few weeks, talk with him on the phone once a week, and probably running program with him again this weekend too.

He's a great teacher and a great boss. I don't have enough good things to say about the dude. Loyal to his employees and always trying to increase the quality of our products...

It's funny that people base their opinion of him on how he was portrayed in a book 6 years ago. I didn't know TD then, but either way...

In one way or another the whole "seduction community" is about growing and evolving as a person.

Look at his current work, and what people have to say these days, and you'll see he is a put together guy and who's concepts have been instrumental in my success...

Author:	Stizz [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:16 am ]
Post subject:	Tyler Durden in "The Game"
Sup guys, Ive been wondering for along time is TD a creepy douche? Thats how he came across in the book and in his style. Hve any of you met him? Do you get the same "vibe" about him or am I wrong?

Author:	Reminis [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:32 pm ]
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I think Herbal(Tynan) confirmed that he didn't act that bad, Style's needed a "bad guy" in the book and it happened to be TD that got the hate spike . Doesn't matter his RSD blueprint material is awesome.

Author:	Nogame [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:11 am ]
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Quote: Sup guys, Ive been wondering for along time is TD a creepy douche? Thats how he came across in the book and in his style. Hve any of you met him? Do you get the same "vibe" about him or am I wrong? Not really, Ive watched his 20 dvd set and before I didn't really like him based on just "The game" I think the reason style hates TD is because he is sorta the "anti-game" he teaches more inner game than spitting a routine. I can fully say im a TD supporter(I may take flak for this but thats just from MM followers ) I prefer his teaching style and content. I say don't knock it till you try it.

Author:	Brad- [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:26 am ]
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I've crashed on Tyler's couch for a few weeks, talk with him on the phone once a week, and probably running program with him again this weekend too. He's a great teacher and a great boss. I don't have enough good things to say about the dude. Loyal to his employees and always trying to increase the quality of our products... It's funny that people base their opinion of him on how he was portrayed in a book 6 years ago. I didn't know TD then, but either way... In one way or another the whole "seduction community" is about growing and evolving as a person. Look at his current work, and what people have to say these days, and you'll see he is a put together guy and who's concepts have been instrumental in my success...

Author:	Plethora [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:40 am ]
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Quote: I think the reason style hates TD is because he is sorta the "anti-game" he teaches more inner game than spitting a routine. Actually, RSD was founded on the exact same principles as Mystery's. I wasn't there, but I think he did rip Mystery's material off quite a bit. He even named his company "Real Social Dynamics" at the time where Mystery's school was called "Social Dynamics." (I'm not pointing any fingers. I have no idea what the relationship between Mystery and TD was so I have no idea how much of a slap in the face his actions were.) It is only until recently, with The Blueprint, that he adapted the 'anti-game' stuff that you mentioned. I don't dislike him. I don't dislike anyone I haven't met. I agree with a lot of his material, so in that sense I like his work.

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Author:	Brad- [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:46 am ]
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Quote: Quote: I think the reason style hates TD is because he is sorta the "anti-game" he teaches more inner game than spitting a routine. Actually, RSD was founded on the exact same principles as Mystery's. I wasn't there, but I think he did rip Mystery's material off quite a bit. He even named his company "Real Social Dynamics" at the time where Mystery's school was called "Social Dynamics." (I'm not pointing any fingers. I have no idea what the relationship between Mystery and TD was so I have no idea how much of a slap in the face his actions were.) It is only until recently, with The Blueprint, that he adapted the 'anti-game' stuff that you mentioned. I don't dislike him. I don't dislike anyone I haven't met. I agree with a lot of his material, so in that sense I like his work. The way Papa explained it to me was when they were living in ProHo, Real Social Dynamics was run by TD and it was day time bootcamps, and Mystery Method was the night time programs run by Mystery... Both organized by Papa. Then the falling out occurred and they became two separate entities...

Author:	Stizz [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:02 am ]
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Thanks alot guys for the info. I only had the one point of view to go on. His work is good. He just came off in the book as a douche but I will trust Brad cause he has met him and doesnt seem like the type to hang with an ass. Does TD have a post somewhere with his reaction/ thoughts on the book/Style?

Author:	Stormy [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:37 am ]
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Quote: Thanks alot guys for the info. I only had the one point of view to go on. His work is good. He just came off in the book as a douche but I will trust Brad cause he has met him and doesnt seem like the type to hang with an ass. Does TD have a post somewhere with his reaction/ thoughts on the book/Style? No, and he's specifically said that he's not going to react to it, ever. If you wanna know what went down, I think the best guy to get the story from would be Herbal. In any event, fuck PUA politics. Nothing that happened at Project Hollywood will help or hinder any of us in banging chicks, and it is therefore irrelevant.

Author:	Stizz [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:44 am ]
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Well Stormy, I just want to understand. It is in my nature to learn all I can. Im nosey. Thats why Social Dynamics is so enteresting to me. I will drop it unless I get the chance to ask Herbel.

Author:	rubyG [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:30 am ]
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i only read the book recently but the impression i got of tyler was a complete wanker, number one rule in the bro code if there ever was one is to never dog your mates, he was constantly cutting the other guys grass and ruining there routine because he was to shit to do it properly. style and mystery took him and papa under there wing, came up with project hollywood, then TD and papa fucked them over. i couldnt stand him in the book.

Author:	Chief [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:20 am ]
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Quote: i only read the book recently but the impression i got of tyler was a complete wanker, number one rule in the bro code if there ever was one is to never dog your mates, he was constantly cutting the other guys grass and ruining there routine because he was to shit to do it properly. style and mystery took him and papa under there wing, came up with project hollywood, then TD and papa fucked them over. i couldnt stand him in the book. YEAH!!! Let's all judge people after only hearing just ONE perspective about them!!! Oh, and stuff that's been said about them almost half a decade ago!!! What a great idea! Wait... I have a better idea... Let's stop worrying about judging OTHER people and focus on becoming the best men WE could be through whatever resources we can learn useful stuff from! Holy shit what a revelation... Silly peoplez.

Author:	rubyG [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:18 am ]
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hey mate you don't have to be a dick about it, everyone's allowed there own opinion and that's mine, i tend to believe whats written in non fiction books. i don't know the guy, i don't want to fuckin know him, SPAM hes just a character to me in a book i read and im chucking in my thoughts about that character. and i don't see how talking about this can distract or prevent us from being "the best men we can be", complete bullshit.

Author:	Stizz [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:25 pm ]
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Wow guys, I just wanted to know if the book gave him a bad rp or not. Info will make us better Men not fighting here on a forum. In the MM book hes says when to cut a tread and I think this would be a good time. I have the info I want. Maybe I can go to a TD class and meet him so I dont have to ask others. Thanks alot guys.

Author:	d.humper [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:28 pm ]
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Quote: I've crashed on Tyler's couch for a few weeks, talk with him on the phone once a week, and probably running program with him again this weekend too. He's a great teacher and a great boss. I don't have enough good things to say about the dude. Loyal to his employees and always trying to increase the quality of our products... It's funny that people base their opinion of him on how he was portrayed in a book 6 years ago. I didn't know TD then, but either way... In one way or another the whole "seduction community" is about growing and evolving as a person. Look at his current work, and what people have to say these days, and you'll see he is a put together guy and who's concepts have been instrumental in my success... I'm being random, but he would make a great wingman! lol

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Author:	practice [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:50 pm ]
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I'd say you gotta take his character with a grain of salt. There may have been some stuff that happened, maybe there wasn't, maybe there was anger on both sides, but, honestly I wouldn't think I know the guy any better than I know style, herbal, mystery, or papa. I don't know any of them, and I'd say it would be a good idea not to judge your opinion on someone based on a book. It's kind of like the whole Phil Anselmo / Dimebag thing from long ago, what it comes down to,( when you know the whole story), is that both sides had done bad things, you just don't know the whole story. It's easy to take sides when you only have one perspective and it's better not to judge unless you were there.