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| Author: | Grape [ Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | A Concept I've Been Applying Lately |
Before you read anything, understand that this is merely my current style of pick up after almost a year of joining the SC. You may just call this my own style of the M3 Model, but.. read. Value + Rapport + Escalation -> Close. Seems reasonable yes? Of course, Mystery broke it off into 9 steps. I tried to use the M3 model. Didn't work out too well. I couldnt focus on 9 stages while sarging! The stages moved too fast and I was too busy socializing with my targets. After looking into all the methods like C&F, natural game, M3, NLP, etc. I think using the 3 things every Guru offered is just so simple, yet very effective. Correct me if I'm wrong, but.. Focusing on just being cool, building a connection, and escalating the relationship will make your sex life tons better. You don't have to worry about I have to do attract before I show interest, I need to open and hook, I need to run a compliance test, I need to tell a DHV story, ALL OF it's all in the package already. Just ask yourself if what you're going to do is whether going to make you have value, rapport, and escalate or just the opposite. After all the information we learn after a few months of joining the community, we know what builds comfort, what creates attraction, and the tools we need to escalate. So why focus on all the 9 steps of the Mystery level? Just focus on three things at all times: Value, Rapport, Escalation. What do you think? <33 Grape |
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| Author: | Mithos [ Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:35 am ] |
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I remember trying myslef to stick to all the steps and shit to my PU but realized it's just to hard to stick to it in the convo(with all the diffrent subjects being brought up out of no where) so I just simplified it to 3 steps for myself Open--->build comfort and attraction(in that order)--->close IMO that's the fundamentals of all successful PU so why try and complicate it with all these steps. Like style said K-keep I-it S-simple S-stupid |
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| Author: | Grape [ Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:14 am ] |
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Yeah! I just feel the rAFCs get overwhelmed with all this info and in truth, we don't need it. It's nice to get an overall view on things, but we just need to focus on very simple things and our subconscious will do the rest ;] |
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| Author: | hurley509 [ Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:17 am ] |
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theres alot of things i take out of the research ive done into this PUA stuff.. but i do like to keep it as simple as possible. First for me is social proof and preselection, so i like to walk into the club like i own the place and generally il talk to the guys first because i know i can get a nice flowing conversation that will get me sociable and out of my head. then its time to approach mixed sets, and kind of sit myself in a way where it appears that the girls are gaming me.. (whilst being playfull, cocky funny.. etc) now this will warm up other sets and get my social proof and preselection down. when i approach full sets of women, i usually approach a nearby set.. then merge together and then it makes my approach look natural. I start off with situational openers, ive found opinion openers to only really work through the day,.. i like asking if they saw the fight outside (regardless of if there was one) and generally, they will want to know.. now false time constrain is usually non verbal for me.. il just kind of lean back like at any point im going.. then move from group to group and eventually one of the girls will start showing IOI's. now for me it is critical to let them be the ones to do it first so i can see if shes interested... i never ask a name til im asked. if one of the girls shows that she especially wants me to stay, i will come back! let her miss me for a bit and grow feelings for me while watching my other interactions then its round 2! il start playfully negging and qualifying her.. and maybe dance or whatever the situation calls for. Ive found role playing to be a big thing, if you do something that only someone close to her would do.. it will set off in her head that you can be trusted. a girl spilt my jager at the club, some of it landed on her shoe. I playfully chastised her in a way that also let her know that hey! its ok, we make mistakes ... but u suck! i asked her to pass me the shoe, which she did.. and i looked at it and playfully dusted it off while looking at her with a smile.... she descided then was the point to kiss me. now, i know some people may be like... why is he saying this? but the fact is at that moment.. i was the carer, i was the man she was looking to to fix her little problem however yes it was a bit of play, and logically there wasnt alot i could do to fix it but it translated with some part of her. does this make sense to anyone? has anyone got a similar experience to this? |
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