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Author:	Vegas The Great [ Tue May 08, 2007 10:34 pm ]
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I had a problem last night , I had no wing and I had no clue what to do ,and how to isolate and close a girl. There were two HB (I only approach the sets of two-for now , I am begginer) , so I opened , told a few stories , they enjoyed company , but I coldn't close with both and I didn't know how to isolate target . The problem was she wouldn't have left her friend alone (I think) , and I coldn't just sugested to target to move somewhere else , she would ask what about her GF ,bla,bla.... SO QUESTION IS.................................................................................. ............. WHAT TO DO ? HOW TO ISOLATE TARGET WITHOUT WING ?

Author:	osiris [ Wed May 09, 2007 1:35 am ]
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tell them you gotta leave get a phone number and then go on a date with YOUR friends? jsut a thought.

Author:	Romeo7 [ Wed May 09, 2007 1:47 am ]
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Hey Vegas, whatz up man I'm glad I can answer this for you Let's go back to the basics first... The whole purpose of isolation is for SEDUCTION, you don't isolate to get a number... In scenes like clubs and bars (where most likely women will be approached) it's common to leave girls alone, because they will be approached sooner or later, in other scenarios, not really, like the mall, coffee shop, the street; so depends on what scenario you were. If the situation didn't allow to seduce, then it's better to just go for the number, and of course you DONT need to isolate for this GET IT? Cool, now next subject, "How to get the number", if they both like you, you hint (mixed message) to the one you like Again, send mixed signals (at your target), they will feel it, they will know that the attention goes for that certain target, she will ask her friend's approval, if she gets it (i.e: Both smiling, eye contact approval) then you can go ahead and number close. - Give her your cellphone and make her dial your number (lead and she will follow) - Take out a piece of paper, and make BOTH of them write their number, just call your target (Something I do at times, if I already know their names, I'll write down Michelle's # or Maria's #, whatever and then let them finish it) - Five questions game, betting that the loser takes the winner for a drink. There is more, but I got lazy already Hope this helps

Author:	Vegas The Great [ Wed May 09, 2007 4:06 pm ]
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Thanx Romeo I have another question about topic So I open , transit , DHV with two of them but how do I qualify target in front of obstacle ? I mean I can't just talk and qualify target while obstacle stands and listens to us ,the obstacle will interfear in conversation , and the obstacle will be obstacle.

Author:	Romeo7 [ Wed May 09, 2007 7:26 pm ]
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Very good question But use your brain a lil, think, remember how I said send mixed signals? I'll give you an example of a complete conversation and number closing, (Feel special and loved) I'll take sitting at a table in the mall. PUA: Hey girls, My friends overthere and I have been having this lil debate for HOURS and we need females opinion, (sit down) And I can only stay here for 2 minutes because I gotta get back to my friends. So really quick, How would you feel if your boyfriend was still friends with his last ex-gf? GIRLS: I'll be ok with it/ I'd hate it PUA: That's reasonable, now part 2, You find out he has pictures of his ex, but they are not bad pictures, just normal ones, what would you do? get rid of them? or talk about it? GIRLS: I would so get rid of them / I woudl talk about with him (sometimes they go on and on with it, but let's keep rolling) PUA: The reason I'm asking is because this friend of mine has pictures of his ex, and now his girlfriend is threatened to break up with him, isn't that fucked up? GIRLS: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't do that, what's the point?/ You're right, but sometimes girls feeling strongly about certain things (They are already qualyting themselves, let's keep rolling) PUA: I understand, and thanks for your opinion... as long, as we are talking, I gotta ask you guys, are you guys best friends or sisters? GIRLS: Yes/ We're sisters (Learn to read body languaje, when people's eyes move to the sides, they are lying, if not, they are telling the truth) PUA: I could totally tell.. GIRLS: Right, how? PUA: Rather than explain to you, I'll give you the best friends test GIRLS: (Get excited) Ok, let's do it... PUA: Let's do it? You mean right here, right now? Girls usually take me out for dinner first, you know (Prizability) GIRLS: HAHAHA, Noo, I mean the test PUA: Oh yeah, right... OK (Act like you were about to ask a serious question and instead say soemthing out of place) Do you guys use the same shampoo? GIRLS: Look at each other in the eyes first PUA: You guys already passed (Whether they used the shampoo or not), when two people have a connection, they look at each other's eyes before giving an answer NATURALLY... GIRLS: (Look at each other again) PUA: You're doing it right now! GIRLS: (Crack up) (At this point, they may throw you a compliment or show you IOI's, which include "What's your name?" "You're funny", etc) PUA: (Don't you ask for names yet!, wait for them do ask for yours) (Now here comes the qualification for the girl you like, your target) Refer to her and say "So, she is your best friend, huh?" GIRLS: Yes, we have met each other for 1 year (2 years , whatever) PUA: Cool, my best friend and I are like brothers, we are like girls, man, we go up and down everywhere, he just couldn't make it today/ he is looking for something in the stores GIRLS: Awww PUA: What, you making fun of me now? TARGET: Nooo (Childish way) PUA: I like this girl... Now turn to her friend (Obstacle) Can I have her?... (See the transition here) OBSTACLE: Sure, haha PUA: To your target again... Hey do you consider yourself inteligent (YES)... To the obstacle... Do you think she's intelligent?... (YES/NO) If she says "Yes" say "You have such a good friend", if she says "NO" (making fun of her friend), be like "I thought the same thing and laugh) TARGET: Why? PUA: Ima play a lil game with you, to measure how intelligent you're (OK), but we have to bet something,,,, like what do you wanna bet, a dollar, a drink (I don't know... whatever you say), Ok, Look, You like starbucks? (I LOVE Starbucks, that's usually what all girls say) Cool, If you win, I'll buy starbucks, If I win, You buy ME starbucks TARGET: Ok PUA: Cool, so what I'm gonna do is ask you five questions, and you have to answer them wrong, if you give the right answer to any of the questions, you lose, got it? TARGET: Yeah.. PUA: OK, What city are we in? (Gives you wrong answer) What state are we in? (Wrong answer) What's today's date? (Gives you the wrong answer) (Here is the trick, in a curious voice) How many was that? Sometimes they fall and say "3?", if they say 3, then you say, HA! I got you! If they say something like 7! (Wrong answer), you say more calmly now "Oh man, you got me, have you played this game before?" Since they are usually excited cause they thought they had won, they say "No" Then you say "ha! I GOT YOU on the fifth one!" GIRLS: HAHA, PUA: Cool, now I have starbucks over the weekend (Imply the weekend or tonight or tomorrow, It's important) Take out a piece of paper, card or whatever, write your name and number first as in Matt's # 512384746, then if you know her name by now write Michelle's #, if not just give it to her, and she will assume she has to write her number down, Then you fold it, and rip it on half, she gets yours, you get hers.... Cool, huh The build some comfort, Ask questions like "Where are you from?" "How old are you? "What do you do for a living" etc, the comfort questions Don't forget to include her friend in the conversation ALSO Leave the group, after 3-5 minutes saying "Pleasure to MEET you both, (To the target), Don't forget you have to buy me starbucks..." How is that for a reply, huh? Hope it helps, and you get the idea

Author:	Vegas The Great [ Wed May 09, 2007 9:11 pm ]
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Thanx man you are the greatest

Author:	Romeo7 [ Wed May 09, 2007 9:23 pm ]
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No problem man,,, Hey it's a pleasure to help and be helped Now go out and do it, and enjoy your days with cute girls

Author:	Damage [ Fri May 11, 2007 1:15 am ]
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That 5 question game is pretty good, where did you pick that up? but starbucks coffee is shit man, why would you waste your victory on that?

Author:	Romeo7 [ Fri May 11, 2007 1:37 am ]
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Listen dude, I appreciate the comment, But I know my shit, Just to your notes, Starbucks is a great place for a date Maybe since you're super PUA, you could take them home that night, good for you

Author:	Impact [ Fri May 11, 2007 2:10 am ]
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Author:	Giacomo [ Fri May 11, 2007 2:14 am ]
Post subject:	Nice routine romeo
I agree man, that 5 questions routine is incredible. Is that a creation of your own?

Author:	Romeo7 [ Fri May 11, 2007 2:18 am ]
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Nop, it's Style's It helps to DHV and to number close

Author:	Prince17 [ Sat May 12, 2007 12:22 am ]
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hey bro, i have finally loged on, i see how you ben getting better, its all good bro i remember when i first used the 5 question game it worked like a charm. see you later for some sarging.

Author:	Damage [ Tue May 15, 2007 2:41 am ]
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Quote: Listen dude, I appreciate the comment, But I know my shit, Just to your notes, Starbucks is a great place for a date Maybe since you're super PUA, you could take them home that night, good for you Easy big fella... Was just trying to spark a 'which coffee is the best debate' But your right, on a date its got nothing to do with the coffee - at least I hope not

Author:	Romeo7 [ Tue May 15, 2007 5:21 am ]
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You're right man, my bad I just choose Starbucks, because girls LOVE it, I love it too and girls usually end up paying for me, so no big deal

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