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| Author: | AceofSpades07 [ Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:10 pm ] |
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So ive been studying body language a lot latley and one of the things that ive read is about how what different handshakes mean different things. For example theperson whose palm is facing more downward is considered more dominate and when its faced upward is more submissive. When i meet girls and shake their hands ive usually given a pretty firm straight foward handshake just like i would a guys. but latley ive been trying to grab their hand with my palm facing up a little and kind of giving it a gentle caress so to speak cause i think it comes off as less intimidating and i think can make you stand out as being a type of romantic. What do you guys use and what do you think comes off the best? |
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| Author: | zqawsxedcrfvtbgynhuj [ Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:26 pm ] |
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I usually do something similar, and I'll explain later. While I have heard the same thing, I tend to find that it only emanates when the handshake takes place between two males, and it subconsciously helps with the definition of the alpha male. A handshake between a male and female is much less deterministic for the submissive and dominate roles, as females are generally more prone to the submissive role in an inter-gender relationship. What I usually do is a handshake, that ends more like the hand caress you seen in old-style movies, where the dude kisses the chicks hand. Now I don't kiss hands unless I'm being funny, but it's not unheard of. I also toss some twirls and whatnot in there. Overall though, I agree that a palm down-ish handshake for women is less agressive, and more inviting. |
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| Author: | Killians [ Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:03 pm ] |
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Palm up usually indicates that you can be trusted too. If you notice ...people who are dealing with shy little kids or scared animals get the child/animal to come to them by putting their palm upward. It shows that you can be trusted and you are gentle. |
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| Author: | Brenoporra [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:43 am ] |
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in Brasil we barely handshake girls at all at most you'll just pop your hand with palm facing upwards and it's subintended that you wanna hold her hand...great way to initiate kino by the way |
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| Author: | Rob123 [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:15 am ] |
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I've tried many different handshakes and the level palm handshake works best for me. Make sure you get your hand set well in theirs and apply the same amount of pressure as they apply to you. |
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| Author: | MattJacks [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:21 am ] |
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"handshakes are for businessmen, I hug" |
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| Author: | Monkey [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:52 am ] |
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I'm with MattJacks 100% here. If you walk into a set with your arms wide open and expecting a hug, you'll get hugged. There's no reason to alienate yourself by pushing through an invisible barrier that doesn't need to exist. And I find with shaking hands, you create one. It's a brief, impersonal contact that doesn't aid your escalation at all, and may in fact bring it a few steps further back than it needs to be. |
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| Author: | Rye Lee [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:04 pm ] |
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The only time a shake a girl's hand is for a business type thing. Anything else, I take her hand in mine, with my hand palm up and slighty raise it to about the level of my solar plexus. This is about halfway between initiating the traditional kissing the back of her hand move and it does register with most women that you are being chivalrous and open. It creates that SPAM of safety and respect for her. Just don't actually kiss her hand unless you've established a great connection and you want to cheese it up a bit for fun, as it can go a step beyond her comfort zone and make her think you're creepy. |
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| Author: | AceofSpades07 [ Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:41 pm ] |
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ok then follow up question. So when your meeting girls in say like a 4 set for the first time how do you go about hugging them all in the group without pissing off the obstacles? |
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| Author: | Rye Lee [ Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:07 pm ] |
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Quote: ok then follow up question. So when your meeting girls in say like a 4 set for the first time how do you go about hugging them all in the group without pissing off the obstacles?
I think going about hugging an entire group that is bigger than 3 people starts to get a bit robotic if you try to do it all at once. I'd suggest spreading it out with comments that warrant the contact."Oh my god! Me too! C'mere you!" *hug* You don't have to do that for every single one, but mix it up to avoid looking like your goal is just to hug everyone and make it something that occurs as a result of the good times you're having together. Make sure you do the same for the obstacles. |
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| Author: | galliet [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:45 am ] |
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Quote: The only time a shake a girl's hand is for a business type thing. Anything else, I take her hand in mine, with my hand palm up and slighty raise it to about the level of my solar plexus. This is about halfway between initiating the traditional kissing the back of her hand move and it does register with most women that you are being chivalrous and open. It creates that SPAM of safety and respect for her. Just don't actually kiss her hand unless you've established a great connection and you want to cheese it up a bit for fun, as it can go a step beyond her comfort zone and make her think you're creepy.
why make her think you're creepy?
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| Author: | Rye Lee [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:19 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: The only time a shake a girl's hand is for a business type thing. Anything else, I take her hand in mine, with my hand palm up and slighty raise it to about the level of my solar plexus. This is about halfway between initiating the traditional kissing the back of her hand move and it does register with most women that you are being chivalrous and open. It creates that SPAM of safety and respect for her. Just don't actually kiss her hand unless you've established a great connection and you want to cheese it up a bit for fun, as it can go a step beyond her comfort zone and make her think you're creepy.
why make her think you're creepy? |
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| Author: | AceofSpades07 [ Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:22 am ] |
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ok i see what ur getting at but my origional question was more aimed at girls you are meeting for the very first time and dont really have any rapport with or havnt even had much of a convo with |
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| Author: | Rye Lee [ Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:53 am ] |
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Quote: ok i see what ur getting at but my origional question was more aimed at girls you are meeting for the very first time and dont really have any rapport with or havnt even had much of a convo with
So like I say, in that case hugging even more than 2 becomes awkward and weird and they'll most likely think you're high or drunk as a result. People are cool with a random hug, or even 2, but once you start hugging big groups they figure you're fucked up on something. If I only had a dollar for every time I've been asked how many I've had to drink, or whether I was on E, and that's not even because of hugging people, that's just from being happy and friendly and fun.If you talk to them for just 30 seconds you greatly increase that "creepy threshold" though, so now instead of hugging 2 being difficult, you can hug 3 without any trouble. But you have to say some stuff to communicate the fact that you're just a fun loving, friendly guy and also demonstrate that you're a touchy person using some kino. This isn't just asking her about dental floss, this is building some decent rapport really quickly. If you've read the thread on Mehow's top 8 picks for best PUAs of '08, then you may have noticed that guys are asking how to get girls interested in you in under 30 seconds; that's precisely what this is. Hell if you do it right you can kiss a girl in under 10 seconds, but you have to do something. That something is building rapport and you don't need a long time to do it, so my response is still the same. As for the slew of questions that people are now going to ask about HOW to create rapport that quickly so that you can do that, that's more complicated and can't be answered so easily. That's one of the things that I discuss in depth during my advanced workshops though and I demonstrate exactly how to go about it with a real girl and afterwards you get to practice with her. Just to make you realise that it isn't something I can just explain in a paragraph or two... |
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