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Author:  frekinrican [ Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:45 am ]
Post subject:  IDK what to do ( horrible Crash and Burn :(.....)
Hellow guys. Well Im gonna be honest in this post. I never sarged before... even though I never comitted to the game I used it a little bit and F close this girl I met less than a month later which is good i guess for a novice. I have horrible inner game and decent outer game. But I did everything in the dressing apartment:

gelled hair
cologne
clean cut
smile
peacock

I went out with like 3 of my friends to the mall who were determined to find me a " GF". A hour in I still dont make a move. My friend who went with me is very open with his relationship with his girl he brought, She gave him permission to flirt with girls to show me. I thought I had a upper hand on him knowing the game but I was dead wrong.... Put it like this... me still knowing the game:

Im still self conscience about my image.
Im short like 5'6 or 5'7
Im not good looking but im not the worst either.

Him- looked like a hobo sorta but he had:

No AA WHATSOEVER!!!
Hes decent looking.
Hes closed more girls than me


I couldnt believe it I coudnt open my mouth while he was opening EVERYONE!! Random girls who were just hanging out would have turned a normal guy down but he was opening girls with screaming!! I swear hes a natural but if he would have known the game he would have been MPUA in no time. I know I sound exicted for nothing but to see the epitome of no AA and girls he screamed at were matching his energy level and howling with him. It was the most amazing display Ive seen by far. So all day they were trying to get me to talk to girls... chicken'd shit out of every single encounter.

Even at one point he went into a random store where this amazing 9 brunette was there. He opened her and could have closed her but he just wanted to show me how to talk to them. So I SAY FUCK IT! They point out 2 girls who were looking at the directory. This is what I ment to say..keep in mind I just decided to go C/F no opener or nothing and try:

So you girls lost huh?

^^ this is what was in my head what came out was:

Umm... so.... you girls lost?

WTF!!!! obviously they are.... if their looking at the directory. Now obv they could either luagh walk away but they go full out.....:

Well obv if were looking at the directory forget it we found it.... and left laughing non stop....

in the worst disgusted way you could imagined... I felt like the most worthelss thing on earth.. But my friend who went with me laughed his ass off. My frame ( if I had one) was decimated. I dont know what to do man... I just feel so much like shit. Georgous girls everywhere.... I decided to make a move Crash and burned nasty. I just feel worthless.....

Im short, lazy, a little chubby, AA throguht the mother fucking roof and no game at all. I feel like I would never get this game thing down. What little self confidence I had was finally gone when I C&B and now Im lost.... I just need closure... i guess :( help from u guy if possible
Author:  Plethora [ Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:25 am ]
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What happens to a lot of guys who get into this, is they create an ideal, a fantasy in their heads of what they should be achieving. You learn all these little tricks and what-not and start to form a mental image of yourself picking up chicks like it's nothing. The harsh reality is that you haven't changed. You are still the same AFC guy inside, just now with a bag of tricks.

This game takes time and experience to master. You are at the point now where you are still acting like your AFC self, but you are conscious of everything you are doing wrong. Now, this is important, because it is here where you very quickly develop. You know now exactly what NOT to do, and you will become self correcting. Reading books or watching video tapes will not get you out of here, you need to push through and make yourself as social as possible with women. You are consciously incompetent now, as apposed to being unconsciously incompetent as you were before. Soon, through self correction, your incompetence will turn to competence, and eventually you will become 'natural' and be unconsciously competent.

Knowledge is only the first step. You need to leave your ego at the door and know that you will not live up to that 'PUA' expectation that you have in your mind. You are not mister suave because you post on PUA forums or read seduction books. Build a better map of reality for yourself and stop trying to control the uncontrollable. Set yourself some small, achievable goals like 'approach X girls this weekend' and trust in yourself to integrate your new-found knowledge into becoming that person that naturally gets the girl he wants. Good luck on your journey.
Author:  VanHaven [ Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:12 pm ]
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I agree with the above poster. Rejection is something even mPUAs have to deal with. You really need to get past the idea of rejection, accept them, and move on. Also, on the approach I'd have done something like make a wise crack about them searching for the buried treasure on the map. Just the first thing that comes to mind.
Author:  joker_jack84 [ Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:45 pm ]
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Don't feel bad man. The first time I sarged was at a wedding. I opened a two-set with the "Who do you think lies more, girls or guys?" opener. The one HB looked at the other laughed and said "Guys" and continued to laugh as they walked away. Looking back I laugh at it too. I hate using canned openers because of that one experience. But later that night I #-closed an HB8 and she was a bridesmaid. Cha ching, haha kinda.

I look at crashing and burning as being a necessary part of pick-up. Every one has and will fail, even the "immortal" MPUA's. There is always the one that will defy every thing whether you perform perfectly or half-ass it.

I find that if I plan ahead I get way to into my own head. When I approach I have no idea what I'm going to say until I say it. Which is in all truth some what ironic.

You just need to remember that being turned down, laughed at, etc. Is all part of the game. Practice makes perfect and all though things like the aforementioned hurt your ego its not even a blip on their memory. Too many things happen in a single persons life to even be able to recall such insignificant things as a bad approach or opener.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is take every thing in stride. If you fail pick yourself up off the ground, dust yourself off, and get back on that metaphorical horse.

Good luck and don't get discouraged.
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