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| Author: | Chief [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Ask Johnny Soporno! |
Got any questions for the Worthy Playboy? Ask them here! Johnny's links: Featured Poster page: johnny.php johnnysoporno.com: http://www.johnnysoporno.com/ worthyplayboys.com: http://www.worthyplayboys.com/ seductivereasoning.com: http://www.seductivereasoning.com/ EDIT: Just for clarification, I am not Johnny. This should be obvious if you scroll down. |
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| Author: | Rye Lee [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:55 pm ] |
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Also, here's the interview I did with Johnny a little over a month ago. It was incredibly enlightening to hang out with him a couple times and I can't wait to do it again! -rye-interviews-johnny-soporno-vt31857.html |
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| Author: | Johnny Soporno [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Oooh! I've got a Question! |
Hey Johnny, long-time listener, first-time caller... I was just wondering, do you think it's REALLY a sign of impending mental collapse to speak to yourself aloud? JS in Toronto |
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| Author: | Johnny Soporno [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Oooh! I've got a Question! |
Quote: I was just wondering, do you think it's REALLY a sign of impending mental collapse to speak to yourself aloud?
Great for getting the ball rolling here, so to speak, JS -In answer, I believe it's only truly problematic when you answer yourself in a different voice, as though you were a different person. I hope that gives you some comfort, especially in the chilly Canadian winter air! Johnny Soporno Worthy Playboy |
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| Author: | madals [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:10 pm ] |
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Whats been the biggest realisetion for you in regard to pick up and how did it affect your sucess? Madals |
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| Author: | Mr. Fickle [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:29 am ] |
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perfect question for you because i'm sure you can relate to a degree of course. I have lived a terribly crazy interesting life, like we are talking about living on a boat for four years to doing every drug there is and everything in between. yet I still seem to be uninteresting when i talk about my life (I've learned only talk about it when asked) I can't seem to express myself without completely alienating my fellow highschoolers because they havn't lived such a crazy life, actually quite dull lives. lol. how do i become interesting (to the kids, the parents love me) when talking about myself and these experiences that I love to share? |
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| Author: | Hepburn [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:21 am ] |
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Johnny, to me you come across as an incredibly honest, sincere, caring guy who really gives a damn about what women think. What gets me is that 9/10 of guys who tend to behave like this get dumped into the friends zone. What you appear to be able to do, to connect with women while fulfilling yourself sexually, never fails to amaze me. It's what actually separates you in my mind from the other gurus, that while you all might share a real love for women, it seems like you don't have to 'fake it' in the process: act disinterested, play hard-to-get, etc. Which I find very odd given some of the more classic ideas about seduction. So did that always work for you, or is the fact that you're able to behave so sincerely and have enormous success with women due to the lifestyle and identity you've built for yourself, and the value that's consequently demonstrated from it? In other words... teach me. Thanks, Hepburn |
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| Author: | Johnny Soporno [ Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:29 am ] |
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Quote: What's been the biggest realization for you in regard to pick up and how did it affect your success?
Once I realized that GIRLS WANT MEN TO SUCCEED IN SEDUCING THEM!They are fundamentally all waiting to meet a man who is NOT ASHAMED of wanting them, who is prepared to LEAD THEM to where they want to go, (even if the girls themselves have NO CLUE where that is!) and who, ABOVE ALL, WILL NOT BEND! Women DESPISE any man who 'bends' to suit their whims... as soon as you let them manipulate you into doing things YOU WOULD NOT DO (which is very different from agreeing to compromise or explicitly doing them a favour when its acknowledged as such) then they will immediately STOP FINDING YOU SEXY, and they will re-categorize you OUT of the 'lover' pile, and toss you into the 'husband' pile. Johnny Soporno Worthy Playboy |
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| Author: | Johnny Soporno [ Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:36 am ] |
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Quote: I have lived a terribly crazy interesting life... yet I still seem to be uninteresting when I talk about my life (I've learned only talk about it when asked) I can't seem to express myself without completely alienating my fellow high-schoolers?
Ok, first off, I can relate to all of this except the part where you WANT to be dealing with high-schoolers? When I was in high-school, I was only interested in college girls or at least high-school grads... the high school kids were virtually ALL DULL.How do I become interesting (to the kids, the parents love me) when talking about myself, and these experiences that I love to share? The easiest way to 'become interesting' to anyone is to ensure you LISTEN TO THEM, and frequently encourage them to tell you more and more about themselves and their experiences.... Being CURIOUS is insanely powerful, because it allows you to be a 'great conversationalist' - ie, someone who lets them talk about themselves If you want to share things with fundamentally dull people, you need to frame your stories in ways which can involve them - try to ensure you continually check back with your listeners to ensure they are still with you, and ask them intermittently if they've has experiences like this themselves - AND THEN LET THEM TELL YOU, before you continue with your own story. Best of luck with it! Johnny Soporno Worthy Playboy ' |
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| Author: | Johnny Soporno [ Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:52 am ] |
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Quote: Johnny, to me you come across as an incredibly honest, sincere, caring guy who really gives a damn about what women think.
Thank you - I DO care about how women feel and what they thing, PRESUMING they are quality people - I don't waste my time on greedy, closed-minded, or clueless women, EVEN if they are incredibly hot Quote: What gets me is that 9/10 of guys who tend to behave like this get dumped into the friends zone.
Heh - the problem is that they were not CLEAR up-front that they were HAPPY to be 'Just A Friend', and that that designation wouldn't interfere with their sleeping together. Quote: What you appear to be able to do, to connect with women while fulfilling yourself sexually, never fails to amaze me. It's what actually separates you in my mind from the other gurus, that while you all might share a real love for women, it seems like you don't have to 'fake it' in the process: act disinterested, play hard-to-get, etc. Which I find very odd given some of the more classic ideas about seduction.
"Classic Seduction" usually involves presenting yourself as SOMEBODY ELSE with the idea that this will convince the girl that you're a desirable partner; someone she could forge a substantial relationship with; someone who wants to support her and her (future) kids... When the truth comes out that you were just lying to get laid, you'll wind up miserable and alone, with a reputation as a pick up artist (NOT A GOOD THING!) and a lot of women who'll hope never to see you again. What a waste of time! Quote:
So did that always work for you, or is the fact that you're able to behave so sincerely and have enormous success with women due to the lifestyle and identity you've built for yourself, and the value that's consequently demonstrated from it? In other words... teach me.
Hehe - I'm happy to teach this to everyone, because I truly believe that this is the most honorable, ethical, and rational way to live - it's founded in self-acceptance, solid integrity, and proper expectation management, and it becomes a more powerful and adamantine frame the longer you live it.Begin by watching my videos from www.SeductiveReasoning.com, and TAKING NOTES! When you've got your notes together, email them to me at JohnnySoporno@hotmail.com - this way I'll know what you've taken out of the seminars, and where you might need a little more guidance. This goes for everyone on here, by the way - I will go through EVERYONE'S NOTES if they write them up, and try to respond with further clarifications and details... Looking forward to hearing back, Hep - Johnny Soporno Worthy Playboy |
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| Author: | Mr. Fickle [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:38 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: I have lived a terribly crazy interesting life... yet I still seem to be uninteresting when I talk about my life (I've learned only talk about it when asked) I can't seem to express myself without completely alienating my fellow high-schoolers?
Ok, first off, I can relate to all of this except the part where you WANT to be dealing with high-schoolers? When I was in high-school, I was only interested in college girls or at least high-school grads... the high school kids were virtually ALL DULL.How do I become interesting (to the kids, the parents love me) when talking about myself, and these experiences that I love to share? The easiest way to 'become interesting' to anyone is to ensure you LISTEN TO THEM, and frequently encourage them to tell you more and more about themselves and their experiences.... Being CURIOUS is insanely powerful, because it allows you to be a 'great conversationalist' - ie, someone who lets them talk about themselves If you want to share things with fundamentally dull people, you need to frame your stories in ways which can involve them - try to ensure you continually check back with your listeners to ensure they are still with you, and ask them intermittently if they've has experiences like this themselves - AND THEN LET THEM TELL YOU, before you continue with your own story. Best of luck with it! Johnny Soporno Worthy Playboy ' omg thats me. before reading this post I just went to a party for my senior class....the ENTIRE time I was there I just f'ing wanted to slay everyone because It feels like I exist on a different plane of living than they do, just because they are soo goddamn boring. aight, I give up, my sexual drive in highschool is just holding me back. tomorrow im going to start attending college functions from here on out. |
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| Author: | Youth Riot [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:51 pm ] |
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Hey Johnny, I've been watching your videos and I'm half-way through all of it. You'll be sure to get a P.M from me in the future. Your joke question inspired this question that I have been thinking about for quite some time. I never had the slightest clue to ask this until I saw your post. More often than not I, without even realizing that I'm doing this, start pretending to have a conversation with a certain person that I imagine myself talking with. It really ranges from friends, girlfriends, to girls that I wanna make friends with. I do this at random periods like when I'm showering, cooking, and even driving. Eventually I interrupt my train of thought and think to myself "What the hell am I doing?" I then feel pretty a shame because I find it odd that I just end up pretending to have a conversation. Most of the time, I usually say something that I would like to tell the person with the perfect timing. I'm asking you: is this normal? or have I gone completely mental? |
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| Author: | Korruptx [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:10 pm ] |
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Hey Johnny. You speak alot about inner game, and how doing nice things for people will brush off on other people but do you play the soft friendly type? I guess my main question is in regards to other forms of Pickup, do you Still use techniques from other forms of pick up such as negging and opinion openers and all that bollocks? Or are you just completely honest and straight up with the girl and simply tell her how sweet she looks and that your interested. It's hard to know what works and what doesn't when you see so many contradictions on this forum ya know? Thanks! |
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| Author: | Johnny Soporno [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:36 pm ] |
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Quote: Hey Johnny, I've been watching your videos and I'm half-way through all of it. You'll be sure to get a P.M from me in the future.
Looking forward to it!Quote: Your joke question inspired this question that I have been thinking about for quite some time. I never had the slightest clue to ask this until I saw your post. More often than not I, without even realizing that I'm doing this, start pretending to have a conversation with a certain person that I imagine myself talking with. It really ranges from friends, girlfriends, to girls that I wanna make friends with. I do this at random periods like when I'm showering, cooking, and even driving. Eventually I interrupt my train of thought and think to myself "What the hell am I doing?" I then feel pretty ashamed because I find it odd that I just end up pretending to have a conversation. Most of the time, I usually say something that I would like to tell the person with the perfect timing. I'm asking you: is this normal? or have I gone completely mental?
It's not precisely normal, but it's also not precisely mental Having a good imagination, and synthesizing conversations with others is a good-way of 'role playing', even when you're alone - and providing that you recognize that it's 'just pretend' doesn't sound like anything to be ashamed of to me! Rehearsing what you'd like to say to someone, and contemplating how they would react is a solid way to prepare for conversations which are daunting. Just don't permit yourself to become convinced of a NEGATIVE OUTCOME, because that is a certain self-fulfilling prophecy. "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take!" - Wayne Gretzsky Johnny Soporno Worthy Playboy |
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| Author: | Johnny Soporno [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:50 pm ] |
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Quote: Hey Johnny.
I concentrate on 'inner game', it's true, which I define as having a satisfied sense-of-self. I recommend doing good things for WORTHWHILE PEOPLE, because it will make YOU feel good about yourself, and costs very little, considering the rewards! You speak alot about inner game, and how doing nice things for people will brush off on other people but do you play the soft friendly type? Certainly, people who feel good about themselves are MUCH more attractive and compelling than people who are clearly uncomfortable in their own skins! Quote: I guess my main question is in regards to other forms of Pickup, do you still use techniques from other forms of pick up such as negging and opinion openers and all that bollocks?
"Still"? I never have used those things. I do not believe in 'negging' women - knocking them off their 'high horse' so you can then get them to your level never made sense to me, as I don't consider myself beneath them, even when they are feeling at their best.'Opinion openers' are not bad, per se - but I haven't needed to use them. I predate all the famous pickup techniques, and don't consider myself a 'pick up artist' at all - I'm just VERY good with women, because I understand them, appreciate them, and accept them - and they know it. Quote:
Or are you just completely honest and straight up with the girl and simply tell her how sweet she looks and that your interested.
That's about it My standard 'pick up line' is simple: Hey, I'm Johnny. What's your name? Quote:
It's hard to know what works and what doesn't when you see so many contradictions on this forum ya know?
Heh - well, there's more than one way to skin a cat, I'm told -but what I'm doing seems to accomplish what I want, which is many, many simultaneous, significant ongoing long-term playful & appreciative relationships, with women I value and enjoy - without ANY deception, misrepresentation, or manipulation. Hey, it works for me! Johnny Soporno Worthy Playboy |
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