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Author:  anutharound [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:47 am ]
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http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/05/slow-s ... tracts.php

A Slow Smile Attracts

Psychology research is not generally very good at capturing change. Measurements tend to be fairly static, either looking at one slice of time or asking participants to average over a period. Which is why this research on smiling is so unusual. Some of the best known research on smiling is about how people judge an authentic smile - the so-called 'Duchenne smile' or the 'crinkly-eyed smile'. What this research asks, though, is how does a smile's speed in combination with head-tilt and gender affect its perception.

In this experiment, one hundred participants, half men half women, were sat in front of a monitor to judge the smiles of synthetic faces (Krumhuber, Manstead & Kappas, 2007). They watched the faces smiling - some whose smile appeared in just over 0.1 of a second, and some whose smile appeared in just over 0.5 of a second. At the same time, some of the heads were tilted to the left and some to the right. Participants then had to judge the smiles on how trustworthy, attractive, dominant, fake and flirtatious they made the faces seem.


Results
The study replicated a previous finding that a long-onset smile (0.5s onset) is seen as more authentic and flirtatious. On top of this, the researchers found long-onset smiles were perceived as more attractive, more trustworthy and less dominant. Head tilting also increased attractiveness and trustworthiness but only if the head was tilted in the right direction. In this case, the right direction was the same way as eye orientation or towards a partner.
Author:  Rye Lee [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:09 am ]
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I completely agree with all of those findings based on my own experience and research with body language. Good post man!
Author:  Roads [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:50 am ]
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But I'm a quick smiler! Sometimes I even anticipate punchlines when people tell jokes. Come on they need to provide exemptions for the quick witted in this study.
Author:  Rye Lee [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:10 am ]
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But I'm a quick smiler! Sometimes I even anticipate punchlines when people tell jokes. Come on they need to provide exemptions for the quick witted in this study.
I usually have a quick smile when someone is telling a joke or a a story with a punchline too. It isn't as attractive, but that doesn't mean that it's a negative thing. Slower smiles are simply more attractive, whereas quick smiles (depending on the authenticity) are more playful, fun and just about laughing and such.

I think to be truly effective at displaying a range of emotions and coming off as an authentic person, you have to have both quicker and slower smiles; it's all about the placement of them though. When you're trying to be seductive, you don't want a quick smile, because it isn't as attractive and doesn't convey that same sense of underlying messages aka innuendo and flirtation. When you're joking around you don't always want to be using a slower smile either, because then you end up giving off that creepy, oily slick vibe where peole aren't sure if you're real or not or whether they can trust you.

Just as in all things, everything in moderation, even moderation.
Author:  Killians [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:03 am ]
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But I'm a quick smiler! Sometimes I even anticipate punchlines when people tell jokes. Come on they need to provide exemptions for the quick witted in this study.
I usually have a quick smile when someone is telling a joke or a a story with a punchline too. It isn't as attractive, but that doesn't mean that it's a negative thing. Slower smiles are simply more attractive, whereas quick smiles (depending on the authenticity) are more playful, fun and just about laughing and such.

I think to be truly effective at displaying a range of emotions and coming off as an authentic person, you have to have both quicker and slower smiles; it's all about the placement of them though. When you're trying to be seductive, you don't want a quick smile, because it isn't as attractive and doesn't convey that same sense of underlying messages aka innuendo and flirtation. When you're joking around you don't always want to be using a slower smile either, because then you end up giving off that creepy, oily slick vibe where peole aren't sure if you're real or not or whether they can trust you.

Just as in all things, everything in moderation, even moderation.
I agree. In a non joking situation a quick smile might come off as fake.
Author:  Ezo [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:54 am ]
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Yes, I have also noticed this, great to finally have it explained. I think there are two different smiles, the one that you get immediately as a sign of humor (relief) which is a social signal that the tension is gone. (Read the book on how to get women to laugh (dont remember the author right now) which explains why laughter and smiles are tension releasers. And the other smile which is the one you suddenly realize that you have, like the knowing smile or the "seductive one".

Just look at people with the slow smile: Brad Pitt in Oceans eleven, Tom Cruise in Top Gun and of course Han Solo.
Author:  Bonita [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:58 pm ]
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I think a long smile is found as more attractive because it is the smile we have when picturing something sexual...go ahead...try it now! When you are talking to a person and you picture something sexual about them it induces that long, drawn out (almost michevious) smile. So it puts you and your body language into a sexual state and they pick up on that...which is why they find it more attractive.
Author:  V1V [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:02 pm ]
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good stuff
Author:  Roads [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:33 pm ]
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When you're joking around you don't always want to be using a slower smile either, because then you end up giving off that creepy, oily slick vibe where peole aren't sure if you're real or not or whether they can trust you.
Seriously Rye, I've seen those smiles and they are unsettling to say the least. Makes me think of Adam Sandler in The Waterboy, right before he piledrives some guy into the ground. I'm more of a spontaneous smiler, if there can be such a classification---I smile when I want, laugh when I feel like it. When I try to think too much about it I'll get all twisted around in my head and that's when I come off as disingenuous. So moderation is good, I just let it kick in by itself, without moderating my expressions consciously.
Author:  Rye Lee [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:47 am ]
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When you're joking around you don't always want to be using a slower smile either, because then you end up giving off that creepy, oily slick vibe where peole aren't sure if you're real or not or whether they can trust you.
Seriously Rye, I've seen those smiles and they are unsettling to say the least. Makes me think of Adam Sandler in The Waterboy, right before he piledrives some guy into the ground. I'm more of a spontaneous smiler, if there can be such a classification---I smile when I want, laugh when I feel like it. When I try to think too much about it I'll get all twisted around in my head and that's when I come off as disingenuous. So moderation is good, I just let it kick in by itself, without moderating my expressions consciously.
You're gonna laugh, but I practiced smiling a lot for a long while. I actually haven't done it for ages cause the place I live now has a shitty bathroom mirror and I think I should start doing it more. I don't know about you, but when I am reading a lot of these posts I'm laughing and smiling a lot, so I have a lot of time to think about how I do it (yeah, I know, I told you you were gonna laugh).

It's a little odd sure, but I used to be so unconfident about my smile that I made sure NOT to smile because I was afraid I'd look funny. I've conquered that so well that I only just remembered that while writing this. Now I LOVE smiling and I get a lot of good comments on my smile, as well as a lot of melting ladies. :wink:

It's just like anything else you may work on during the course of your self development with stuff you learn here. Hey it's a little unusual to think about how you actually go about smiling, but with a little bit of conscious thought and practice you develop better, more effective ways of doing the things you do and you benefit from it. If you tell me you've never practiced a conversation in your head with a girl, then I'm gonna tell Chief to ban your ass. :P When you practice that conversation, do you ever find yourself practicing when or how you'll smile or laugh during that conversation? Maybe I'm the only one and I'm on some really good drugs, but I know I do.
Author:  anutharound [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:53 am ]
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I also saw another study where they showed that the physical act of smiling even if it is somewhat forced can change our physiology to that of being actually happier. That doesn't mean going around fake smiling all day though, but one thing that has helped me is to wake up every morning and turn on some comedy while I'm in the bathroom. Eventually I laugh at it and when I look at myself in that moment I can't help but having a better day.
Author:  Ezo [ Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:16 am ]
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I tied the slow smiles vs the quick ones this weekend and the slow ones works best!

Ezo
Author:  Rye Lee [ Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:39 pm ]
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I also saw another study where they showed that the physical act of smiling even if it is somewhat forced can change our physiology to that of being actually happier. That doesn't mean going around fake smiling all day though, but one thing that has helped me is to wake up every morning and turn on some comedy while I'm in the bathroom. Eventually I laugh at it and when I look at myself in that moment I can't help but having a better day.
People often say that body language is a result of how we are feeling, but what they fail to add is that how you feel is also a result of your body language. If a person is smiling because they are happy and then forces themselves to frown, after a while they lose a great deal of that happiness. Same thing when someone crosses their arms across their chest, not only does that indicate they may be closed off, but if they were originally very open they end up becoming more closed off.
Author:  anutharound [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:16 am ]
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People often say that body language is a result of how we are feeling, but what they fail to add is that how you feel is also a result of your body language. If a person is smiling because they are happy and then forces themselves to frown, after a while they lose a great deal of that happiness. Same thing when someone crosses their arms across their chest, not only does that indicate they may be closed off, but if they were originally very open they end up becoming more closed off.
yea very good point I agree with you it should be discussed more because it does have an obvious effect on how someone feels about themselves
Author:  *olie* [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:39 pm ]
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haha! no wonder people say i have a great smile XD
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