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Author:  Magdiel [ Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:11 am ]
Post subject:  Best way to convert AFC to PUA?
Look my neighbor is a complete AFC, I try not to hang around him cus hes just so weird and not real. Ive tryed helping him already but that only made him become more stupid and he knows im into this pickup artist stuff but rarely ever asks for any help. Look guys im tired of hanging around him and i dont want to hang around him at least not until or if he even turns into a normal social guy. So guys what can I do to make him or get him started thinking about all this stuff? one way I think would be good is if I just handed him the book The Game what do you guys think?

(Look guys I know i might sound rude or seem like a bad guy but Ive heard that sometimes you start acting and thinking the same way as the group of people you hang out with, I totally agree with that and well I just dont want to return to those AFC days)
Author:  Jaybot [ Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:36 am ]
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I am currently trying to do the same with my housemates, best way to go about it is point out a personality flaw and tell them that the game might help.
For example I have a housemate with zero confidence, so I took him out made him buy Rules of the game and gave him my copy of the game. Another housemate always says that the women in clubs are boring (which is a fair point with most of the clubs we go to) so I told him most women come across that way because they don't want to commit to the conversation etc, so told him he could get a lot from the game by picking out a few basic points.
Author:  MLTR [ Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:59 am ]
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Get them on the forum lol.

No but the best way is to take them out gaming with you, don't take no for an answer.

Then simply pull some HB10 while he watches... make them laugh with some PUA terms and walk away with a number.

This will make them understand what theyr'e missing :)
Author:  Ezo [ Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:38 pm ]
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Hand him the game... If it does not help... You are wasting your time. Find a better wing!
Author:  Plethora [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:16 am ]
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There is no way you can drag an AFC into becoming a PUA. If you can somehow get him motivated enough to want to change himself (giving him an inspirational book like The Game would help) then maybe he will. He has good reason to be apprehensive and skeptical about the possibility that he could efficiently seduce women.
Author:  madals [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:31 am ]
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1 x big stick
1x large fire
1x AFC
add in
Abuse
Shouting
push ups

:lol:

There is no easy way :)
Author:  V1V [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best way to convert AFC to PUA?
Quote:
Look my neighbor is a complete AFC, I try not to hang around him cus hes just so weird and not real. Ive tryed helping him already but that only made him become more stupid and he knows im into this pickup artist stuff but rarely ever asks for any help. Look guys im tired of hanging around him and i dont want to hang around him at least not until or if he even turns into a normal social guy. So guys what can I do to make him or get him started thinking about all this stuff? one way I think would be good is if I just handed him the book The Game what do you guys think?

(Look guys I know i might sound rude or seem like a bad guy but Ive heard that sometimes you start acting and thinking the same way as the group of people you hang out with, I totally agree with that and well I just dont want to return to those AFC days)
MOVE!!! LOL!
V1V :twisted:
Author:  Zarathustra [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:52 pm ]
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play Hypnotica tracks to him while he's asleep
Author:  Bedrock [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:46 pm ]
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Lol I'm trying to do the same thing with my brother. He hasnt had a gf since 7th grade, and he is a freshman in college now :(

Ive showed him The Game, Ive showed him the forum, and Ive even taken him out with me and showed him what its like when you go out and meet new people and make out with girls and shit. Its so frustrating that he wont do anything! :evil:

He's not gay btw. I found porn on his laptop. So I dont have to worry about that
Author:  ConvAZN [ Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:11 am ]
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Look, learning to PU is not something you can get people to do. They have to want to want it! Those of us who've been here for a while and have honed our skills a bit all wanted to learn how to PU because we wanted to. No one dragged here against our will or forced us to change ourselves for the better, in their eyes.

If your friend truly want to stop being an AFC, he's got to be willing to admit to himself that he is one (which is a big step in itself, because none of us here, I'm sure, wanted to admit that we lacked the adequate skills/knowledge to pick up women we wanted). When and if he wants to learn, he'll find the way on his own. It's not that difficult to google "How to get girls" and find a link that will eventually lead him here or any other helpful dating/PU forums.
Author:  Temur/Jeskai [ Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:57 pm ]
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Had the same difficulty before. One friend of mine is an introvert and I asked him if he wanted to learn the game. At first I thought he was interested. But he played it off like it was all just a big joke. PU is something that has provided me w/ a lot of laughs but being that it is an area of my life that I am trying to improve upon in a big way, I take it very seriously. I like this guy, he is warm and friendly and sincere and someone who I can vent to. He just is not willing. He is content w/ where he is right now and though he has had maybe one gf, he is not really worried. He knows that that door is always open I will gladly welcome him and show him what's what.
I have another friend that I think is more willing but this guy already has some natural skill. Now this guy and I have differing goals, he wants more girls who he can bring home to Mom while I (still being a virgin) would be content with girls that I could just bring home. Even though said goals diverge, he could still be a reliable wing even if he did not read the Game or anything on PU or seduction. I feel there is potential for him because I told him how the Community is all about self-improvement and achieving life goals in general. I still am unsure of how far I could go w/ him as a friend (you know how that goes) but there might be potential.
My Mother gave me a book which I have been reading off-and-on called "How to Have Confidence and Power in Dealing with People" by Les Giblin. He states that if you want to get anyone to do anything, you have provide them a reason that will boost there ego while they are doing it. When I discovered the Community, it became a huge boost for my ego because I realized that everything I had ever lacked was attainable. The first guy I mentioned, PU and everything associated w/ it could not work for because it would not boost his ego to engage in it because, kudos to him, his self-esteem is strong enough already. If you want someone to become a wing, or a pupil etc... You have to provide them a reason that will boost there ego while they are doing it. Always aim to build them up and be their guide, not ever their drill instructor.
Author:  Slipfinger [ Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:58 pm ]
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Hehe easy my friend, you got 2 options maybe 3 in a near future.

GET HIM "The game" by neil strauss, if he does'nt read books get him a voice book!:)
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