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Author:  Head First [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:  what do i say to this..
so my simi onits is giving me shit about my life stlye and just sent me this on AIM. I didnt know whys shes saying this to me.. Is she fucking with me or do you think she cares.. and yes i do enjoy taking drugs thats whats shes talking about..

no more ambien for YOU, mister. I got your message about camping.... and I'll be honest, its not that I'm over it... or you... its that 1) I told you I would be taking time alone for a while... and 2) I am worried about your habits and if they don't change, then I dont see anything working out... and so far... the change is rather slow... which is why I'm keeping in touch and seeing your progress. Its not that I don't like your habits, its that I don't like them around me because I don't wanna get sucked into that.
Author:  The Chef [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:42 pm ]
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Without proper context this one is rather hard to decipher. Either you and your friends are all serious drug addicts or you like gangbang people for fun...just throwing it out there, lol

"which is why I'm keeping in touch and seeing your progress. Its not that I don't like your habits, its that I don't like them around me because I don't wanna get sucked into that."


Now I don't know exactly what "lifestyle" she is talking about but since you are on this forum, I am assuming she is talking about you being out and partying all the time. Or something, I am not sure.

I would say that this could be two things and you need to decided which way you are going to go.

1. It's her openly, honestly, telling you how she feels about you, with genuine concern. If this was the case, then she has serious feelings for you and would probably continue a serious relationship if you stopped doing whatever it is she doesn't like you doing (doggie porn perhaps?)


2. She is pulling a power manuver. It sounds like she might be possibly trying to get you to fit snuggly into her idea of what you should be and if you give into it fully, you could possible AFC your way into a relationship with a controlling woman.

The reason why I outline the latter as a possibility is because my ex used the same sort of rhetoric to wrangle me back into was was a very seriously fucked up relationship. It's not so much WHAT she said, but rather it's the words she used that would tip me off to that point.

In the end buddy, I would say it is your call. If you are out doing lines with leprechauns and she is not down with that, then you need to decided is your oneitis is worth it. From a player perspective, no it's not. You should just let her go and move on to another girl who is open to naked twister with you are your buddies...However if you are ready to settle down and get serious wit this girl, then you probably should take heed to some of the things she is saying, because after all, a relationship (a real relationship) is about compromise.

That's a lot there to decipher I am sure, but like I said without proper context, it's a bit difficult to give you a definitive answer either way.

Hope that works out for you.
Author:  Head First [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:57 pm ]
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to answer cheifs question.. Ive been seeing this chick for a few months, And she wants me to stop using drungs and partying like a rock star witch i should cuz i just got a dui and need to settle down. I wanna dare say it GF her but. form what its says here i think i can.


ME (10:52:43 AM): no offence but you dont even know me.. or how much stress im under or why i use.. it so ez for you and anyone who wants to sit and judge me from the side line.. If you had any idea of what i have been though and what ive accomplished you would have a better idea of why i use.. but you think im some trust fund kid that just gets fucked up on all the time.. tisk tisk
HER (10:53:21 AM): well... no I didnt think that about you at all.
HER (10:54:10 AM): I have things to deal with as well, always have.. I used to go to alcohol and coke to deal... but its a bandaid... when you stop it hurts again. So I worked on it without those bandaid coping skills
ME (10:55:02 AM): i used/use cuz im in pain
ME(10:55:19 AM): there is no bandaid for the type of pain im in
ME (10:55:34 AM): noting can fix it only dull at times
HER (10:55:35 AM): then you just gotta heal.. no?
ME (10:55:46 AM): its not like that
ME (10:55:51 AM): my back is uber fucked
ME(10:56:09 AM): its not pussy my feelings are hurt pain
ME (10:56:11 AM): its real
ME (10:57:13 AM): tell you walk a mile in my shoes dont act like you why i do what i do
HER (10:58:58 AM): I dont need to know why you do it, I'm not judging you. I'm saying that I cannot be around it
ME (11:07:24 AM): yet it still sounds like you get hella fucked up
ME (11:07:35 AM): so dont give me this ish bro
HER (11:07:47 AM): I get fucked up?
HER (11:08:03 AM): I drink wine sometimes with dinner. I smoke weed...
HER (11:08:09 AM): thats...it...
HER (11:08:15 AM): last time i talked to you, you were pilled back as fuck
ME (11:08:29 AM): so you liying now or your were lying then
ME (11:08:39 AM): eather way your full or shit mate
HER (11:08:54 AM): um no.... I took a pill that I actually have prescribed to me for anxiety
HER (11:09:16 AM): you cannot compare my habits to yours. don't even try, you know its not true
ME (11:10:09 AM): im not... im just saying A. i dont think they give that shit out of anxiety and if they do they dont want you drinking and driving on it
HER (11:10:37 AM): I wasn't drinking on it.. but yeah I had to drive home
HER (11:10:53 AM): and yeah... the doctor said it would help me with my stress/anxiety
ME(11:12:42 AM): maybe it will its kind of an old school drug. im not trying to call you out.. its just that that xanax and new benzodiazepines had taken its place
HER(11:13:33 AM): ok but thats beside the point. I cannot be compared to you.
ME(11:14:22 AM): No one can.. Im in a league of my own
ME (11:16:17 AM): i just think its kinda of bullshit that you not giving any cridet for the changes that i have made, to stop the stunner life style then again I dont much care cuz im changing for me... and if you can see that im am trying my best then fuck yourself
HER (11:17:35 AM): well I'm watching... I'm seeing that you wanna change.... but I wanna see how far you can go with it. I have faith in you
ME (11:24:34 AM): Thats kinda of fucked up. Im not sure if i even wanna associate w/ some one who cant take me how i am
HER(11:25:11 AM): well you are changing...
HER (11:25:50 AM): you're taking things too personally. I mean.. with all of the changes you're making, would you say its a good idea to get into something?
ME (11:26:34 AM): what kind of something?
HER(11:27:05 AM): a relationship-type of somethign, where you have another person involved with your life
Author:  Brenoporra [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:24 pm ]
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you're just plain immature...
Author:  The Chef [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:36 pm ]
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I can say a number of things but here is what is important:

1. Don't engage in an argument with a females...EVER they do not use the same tactics men do to try and substantiate their side of the argument. By throwing her drug use in her face you only lowered you value in her eyes. The words you are using such as fuck you, and i don't give a fuck, express more a desperation to be autonomous then actually being so. Try reframing so that your anger doesn't come across so evidentially.

Not only but you have gotten more aggressive than her, which puts you in the losing seat. You gotta keep your cool, or she will own every conversation you have.

2. Drugs are bad MMkay. I am a Libertarian so I am definitely not gonna tell you how to run your life, but take this into account:

All MPUAs discourage the use of alcohol and weed when trying to sarge, I would also imagine that any other form of drug would lessen your potency in the field as well.

Most successful gangs and organized crime syndicates forbid their members from using ANYTHING because it clouds the mind and makes you stupid.

Now I am not innocent, cause I smoke pot like a mofo, but consider it if you are seriously looking into getting in PUA.

3. I'd just drop it dude. If you are not looking for something serious, and she isn't down with your lifestyle, then it's not a good match, and judging from that IM string, i'd say it's prolly for the best anyway.

Hope that helped.
Author:  Head First [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:59 pm ]
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thanks chif... you've opend my eyes
Author:  Chino Kapone [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:02 pm ]
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Drop the habits or drop her. Your choice.

CK
Author:  Head First [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:57 pm ]
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Im Just going to lie my ass off!!! lolol
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