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Author:  Dokstar [ Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Ur friend's GF.. how 2 deal with them when they want ur nuts
So, last night I was out at a small 'moving in party.' One of my friends GF just got a great new place and had about 10-15 people come over for drinks. I knew about 50-75% of the people there at any given moment. Anyway, as any good aspiring PUA I was working game. Currently, for me, this entails lots of DHV (with stories, ability to make groups laugh, ability to walk into / hi five / greet any little social pocket at the party etc). I also rely quite heavily on what i believe is DeAngelo's Cocky Funny approach. Never been critiqued, but i make chicks laugh all the time. This is all just background, the question I have is:
How can I deal with my friends GFs when it is clear my DHV'n / cocky funny is creating a strong attraction from them to me?

I had two friends who both had their GF's there and i was receiving tons of IOI's from both. One was in the comfort stages and i kept getting these 'dreamy' eyes from her. Also everything i said around her was 'hilarious' in her eyes, even when it wasnt. The other one was more overt, she KEPT initiating kino, making sexual suggestions which i ignored (she isnt a whore, dont think that / say it plz, she just has a open personality).

Anyway, other than ignoring these IOIs what can i do to turn them off from me so to speak. My friends and I are tight, but no one likes to have even a GLIMMER of doubt about their GF being interested in a friend.

Any thoughts?
Author:  SouthernSeducer [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:01 pm ]
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talking to them like a boring business partner works wonders for me.

Monotonous tonality, stupid and obviously not funny jokes etc. Seek approval from them "does my hair look ok", "do you think this, do you think that". Try to establish a frame that they are like your big sister, and not your little one lol.
Author:  jsquared [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:11 pm ]
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You can always be upfront with her, tell her that she's you best friend's gf and that nothing will ever be between you two. Then you can be friends with her and need no bars on your friendship, because the boundries have been set.
Author:  Stephen_Nash [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:08 pm ]
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Dude - these are not true IOI's, as they are using you to generate jealousy from their boyfriends (in my opinion). I recall once being out with Papa to the Grammy's some years ago, and his girl was a total slut...or was she. She was very responsive to me and my manners, and a bit indifferent to his. She was responding to me so openly in order to generate more attraction from Papa to her. See this? I like the other guy's idea here - talk to them as if it is a business convo. If you walk away from them, they will only use that more. Seriously - you have to BORE them to tears here to save this from getting wierd.

If I were you, I'd be sure to work it so that the other girls there saw this happening. I'd even involve them in the conversation, using these gfs as a pivot (without their knowing). Then, once I had engaged a new girl and enveloped her into the set, I'd invite the BFs over to the set, thus calming the gfs down.

If you're smart, you can use this to your advantage to get the other single girls at the party interested. But, you don't want to use any "game" directly on the gfs as they will use it to incur the jealousy of their bfs, straining your friendships.

See that?

Playboy
Author:  madals [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:27 pm ]
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I had this problem a while ago actually :)

End result, happen to bring up in conversation with ur male friends that you are just a flirt and would never take it any further with any1 your friends like.
Author:  Dokstar [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:57 pm ]
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I like your approach SoutherSeducer. It's odd though, while attempting to learn how to 'play the game' it seems a valuable lesson is learning when 'not to play.' Last night as i was busing home from a friends I just wasnt in the mood to be 'on' so i decided to just ignore the social setting i was in. It was odd, because though i wasnt actively 'playing' in some odd way i was. Learning how 'to not play' seems on some levels just as valuable as knowing how 'to play' (this probably makes no sense).

Jsquared / Madals - i dont think I can take your advice. There was nothing so explicit as to make a scene about it. They are my friends, but i think it would rub them the wrong way if i talk about being even semi-flirtatious with their GF.. or that i thought their GF MIGHT like me sexually. I respect your direct approach though, but it isnt right for me in this situation.

sometimes ignorance IS bliss. - might have to add that to my signature line ;)
Author:  Dokstar [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:13 pm ]
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Stephen, when i first read your post i wasnt on board.. however i reread it, thought about it a bit and I think I like what you said.

Still, i dont understand the difference between real IOIs and IOIs used to inspire jealousy. I would say they are almost one and the same... maybe i just dont want to admit I am just a tool being used to inspire jealousy. Either way, this seems to be the least important part of your post.

let me try to recap your advice (as i tried to recap, i noticed i wasnt entirely sure how to accomplish what you said) working with the party as it was detailed in my original post:
1. create a conversation with both GFs. make sure you position yourself so other girls / targets can see you and maybe even hear bits of your convo
2. bore the two GFs with conversation [suggestions on how to bore them without having them walk away? work talk? - i've been working so hard to be more entertaining, seems almost more difficult now to come across as boring :P]
3. When you sense they are saturated with boredom (lots of IODs) get a target girl into the conversation.
4. Turn it on, mainly focus on creating more attraction / comfort (no need to open cause we all, for the most part, 'know' who each other are in some sort of manner
5. Once you sense IOIs coming in from GF call the BFs into the scene and ego boost them (this is DHV to main target girl as she sees you be 'loved' by everyone)
6. restructure the group sitting position, easier if standing, so BF/GFs are together and you are with main target girl (this might actually have a subconscious effect on the girl - she is being visually bombarded by images of two happy couples and she has no one :'( oh wait, I'M here for her :D [maybe? thoughts?].
7. break her away from the group and take her to another room "for a drink" or because it was a welcoming party "to check out other parts of the house"

wow.. at first i wasnt sure what you were saying, but i think you nailed it on the head. This, when written out (huge difference between writing and reality though) seems like it would often see a high margin of success!

Thanks for the reply man!
Author:  SouthernSeducer [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:31 pm ]
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Quote:
I like your approach SoutherSeducer. It's odd though, while attempting to learn how to 'play the game' it seems a valuable lesson is learning when 'not to play.' Last night as i was busing home from a friends I just wasnt in the mood to be 'on' so i decided to just ignore the social setting i was in. It was odd, because though i wasnt actively 'playing' in some odd way i was. Learning how 'to not play' seems on some levels just as valuable as knowing how 'to play' (this probably makes no sense).
Understood, perfectly. In terms of respecting my friends, I deflect attraction from myself and bring value back to my friends again. Fuck stealing their girls, shit. I'd lay my life down for them, which also means, staying off their girls.

In the same way, I will relentlessly beat them up if any of them disrespected their girls, or were harsh on them in a way that was out of bounds/if they lied to their girls or played on them (unless that was the arrangement). It's deciding what it is that you want, really - and if you want the girls to be attracted to you, fine, that's your choice. But me personally?? I'd rather be a dorky friend to them, but a leader when called for (think Clark Kent/Superman or Goku, from DBZ - Dorky with people, but steps up when needed).
Author:  Reo [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:31 pm ]
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man you aren't talking about anything serious. lets be honest in your mind you subconsciously wouldn't mind having your friends girlfriends into you

Wait til you've made out with your good friend's girlfriend and she carries on like it never happend in front of her boyfriend but is forever sending u messages to do it again....if that happens then we'll talk

Also just be yourself no need to tone it down. If you tone it down because you fear the Girlfriends will be so into you thats just being overly Cocky. They'll start thinking this guy is boring no point in introducing him to any of my hot friends.... Unless the girl says or does something to let it be know they want you its just all in your mind.
Author:  SouthernSeducer [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:50 am ]
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It's all about choice though dude. Like when a stranger pisses you off, you subconsciously can't help but want to smack him over in front of everyone. But you won't. Same thing.

All alpha males get ioi's from their friends gfs, I've had my share, but hell, do I want to fuck them over? That's where you get into murky territory. It's a matter of principle here...

But, once again, good for you if it works for you. I just know that karma applies here, and what goes around, comes around, man...
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