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Author:  Risen [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:46 pm ]
Post subject:  My troubles: the jump from n-closing to f-closing
This is the post where I want to come clean with myself. I've been in the community for a year, but only seriously going in the field for about 4-5 months. I got plenty of information in my head, but honestly too much for my own good :roll:

Im still having my battles with my AA, but ive been working on some good inner game stuff recently which is helping alot.

So the point at which I am at is that I can get some solid number closes. Some from girls I met briefly on the street, others, who I have created a connection with at a bar or club. For a while I've practiced night game where I have just opened as many people as I could. And it worked well...I got lots of numbers. Overwhelming to the point that I didn't know who to call! But anyone whos been in the community long enough knows that numbers dont mean shit. This is where my frustration is kicking in. I just cant turn these n-closes to f-closes.

After I get a number I'm not sure what to say, when to call, if I should call or just try to meet up with her through texting. Should I ask her for a drink after work or try to meet up on the weekend? Sometimes I feel that after learning about all the pua stuff, i forget how to just act like a normal person! Instead my mind violently buzzes with what 'next step' I need to do...but im not exactly sure what the next step is.

I know I have the ability to take it to the next level, but I guess I just need some guidance on how to get there. Thanks for taking the time to listen to me rant!
Author:  Lucius [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:20 pm ]
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Also David DeAngelo has some good stuff on how to set up date over the phone is his book Double Dating.

Good luck
Author:  Fin [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:29 pm ]
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Ok call whenever you want, (or if playing it strictly indirect wait 2 days) be relaxed and cool, be upbeat, find a story you can tell across the phone, if you developed an inside joke say it and get her laughing.

Basically let her remember the good time she had with you and why she gave you her number. Then during a day 2.3.4 whenever you feel you've pumped the buying temperature enough, isolate to your place.

Then once you've got her at your place, escalated kino into make-out territory, then after you've made-out, simply ask if she wants to stay the night.

Strong eye contact and "So do you want to stay the night?" is like a universal code of, "you wanna have sex?" if you've sarged well up till now she will say yes.

That what you were looking for?
Author:  Jay Wa [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:32 pm ]
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Strong eye contact and "So do you want to stay the night?" is like a universal code of, "you wanna have sex?" if you've sarged well up till now she will say yes.
My friend had a girl stay at his place the other night. He told me that when she said she had to go home, he would quietly acknowledge it and then change the subject. Then he told her he was getting tired and walked upstairs without saying a word. She followed.

I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like a good idea.
Author:  Rye Lee [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:40 am ]
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Strong eye contact and "So do you want to stay the night?" is like a universal code of, "you wanna have sex?" if you've sarged well up till now she will say yes.
My friend had a girl stay at his place the other night. He told me that when she said she had to go home, he would quietly acknowledge it and then change the subject. Then he told her he was getting tired and walked upstairs without saying a word. She followed.

I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like a good idea.
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of asking if she wants to stay either, I think it's just giving her the opportunity to say she is gonna go home, it's like asking her if she likes you or if she will give you her number; it's a whole lot better to just assume attraction, give her your phone and have her automatically give you her number, show you through her actions that she likes you and let you know she wants to spend they night by taking off her clothes and climbing into bed with you.
Author:  Fin [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:19 pm ]
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Strong eye contact and "So do you want to stay the night?" is like a universal code of, "you wanna have sex?" if you've sarged well up till now she will say yes.
My friend had a girl stay at his place the other night. He told me that when she said she had to go home, he would quietly acknowledge it and then change the subject. Then he told her he was getting tired and walked upstairs without saying a word. She followed.

I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like a good idea.
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of asking if she wants to stay either, I think it's just giving her the opportunity to say she is gonna go home, it's like asking her if she likes you or if she will give you her number; it's a whole lot better to just assume attraction, give her your phone and have her automatically give you her number, show you through her actions that she likes you and let you know she wants to spend they night by taking off her clothes and climbing into bed with you.
If you wanna do it that informally that's fine, and I ussually prefer it that way, but to be honest I feel that if your going to bed her she should already be fairly attracted to you, it's not really said in a question sort of way, more a suggestion with the eye contact indicating that you have assumed she is saying yes.


Whichever way rocks the boat.

To OP: If you really don't want to make it a "formal deal", then just escalate kino and touching when your at the "sex location" thats generally the simplist way to do these things.
Author:  Rye Lee [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:58 pm ]
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Just increase kino when she's attracted and comfortable with you, seduce her and keep increasing kino. Soon you'll be making out and you just keep going till either you're having sex, or she says she doesn't want to/you get obvious signals that she doesn't want to. She'll tell you if she doesn't want to stay the night and have sex, but asking her just brings the decision to a conscious level where she is more likely to "be good" and say 'no'.
Author:  Fin [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:15 pm ]
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She'll tell you if she doesn't want to stay the night and have sex, but asking her just brings the decision to a conscious level where she is more likely to "be good" and say 'no'.
Depends whether or not you ask it in a "question" manner but I have to agree now, it is definatly better to let things "just happen".
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