PUA Forum :: Prude/shy girls?

Look, I am a man but I think this is so unfair of you toward women. On one hand you put a premium on being prudish and a virgin, and think of virginity as something you can "give" away to someone. On the other hand you seem to have no problems "taking" that virginity without any commitment in return. (I say this because you talk about "girls", not "the girl".) By defining a virgin as "pure", you make confident women who are comfortable with sex "impure". You're attitude is the reason there are so many prudes out there, who have unhealthy attitudes toward sex, and why we have so many sexually repressed societies out there.

Now I love the idea that sex is so meaningful that you only share it with special people, but the emphasis on virginity and the idea that sex is dirty and somehow ruins a woman causes so much unneeded misery

Author:	thatkidej [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:52 am ]
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I'm not trying to corrupt anyone's mind or anything, but what can you do turn a girl like this onto the idea that it just may be natural for people to be curious about sex?

Author:	whadthfxup [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:22 am ]
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Super veg. I think more detail is a must for real analysis. GoogleDefine: A prude is a person who is described as being overly concerned with decorum or propriety. They may be perceived as being uncomfortable with sexuality, nudity, alcohol, drug use or mischief. ... Doesn’t sound like any girl id be trying for, no drugs, alcohol or mischief…….she might as well be a desk weight  “NEXT”

Author:	thatkidej [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:28 am ]
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Quote: Super veg. I think more detail is a must for real analysis. GoogleDefine: A prude is a person who is described as being overly concerned with decorum or propriety. They may be perceived as being uncomfortable with sexuality, nudity, alcohol, drug use or mischief. ... Doesn’t sound like any girl id be trying for, no drugs, alcohol or mischief…….she might as well be a desk weight  “NEXT” Hahah, I can see you're not into challenges.

Author:	Kushranada [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:10 pm ]
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lol, Challenges can be fun, I will agree. At the same time, I don't know the girl. Is she fun to be around at least? If not, I wouldn't even bother. If so....then I'll get back to you with an answer whenever I think of one. :p

Author:	Fin [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:41 pm ]
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Just game as normal I'd say, you're just going to need alot more comfort, too make her OK with getting intimaate with you.

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Author:	Fiction dTAJIr8v [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:55 pm ]
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Get comfort, but be aggressive. Don't try to fly under the radar and get her to think you're such a great guy first. Continue to push the envelope. Build more comfort, but do it fast--be like that guy that she feels like she's known forever. Pickup101 has a great video on building intimacy,

Author:	David~ [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:52 pm ]
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Im a big fan on prude and shy girls. Infact before coming into the game, these were my favorites and remain to be my favorites. Why? Because theres something so pure and charming about them. It's almost more attractive then a HB10 that will give you an easy fuck after a couple of hours of good gaming. Prude and shy girls require more game, more effort, and after putting all the time and energy into them, the lay just feels that much better and it keeps me coming back for more. They're more real than an HB10 at a club looking for someone alpha. They want someone to sweep them off their feet and slowly peel the shells off of them and see who they really are. They want someone worthy enough to be intimate with. This challenge makes it so much more fun. Not to get a lay, but to make them fall in love with you. There's nothing greater in the world than having the feeling of a girl giving everything she has to you and you recipricating. This is almost impossible to find with a party or club girl. Better described as someone who isn't prude and shy.

Author:	chi [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:43 pm ]
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Look, I am a man but I think this is so unfair of you toward women. On one hand you put a premium on being prudish and a virgin, and think of virginity as something you can "give" away to someone. On the other hand you seem to have no problems "taking" that virginity without any commitment in return. (I say this because you talk about "girls", not "the girl".) By defining a virgin as "pure", you make confident women who are comfortable with sex "impure". You're attitude is the reason there are so many prudes out there, who have unhealthy attitudes toward sex, and why we have so many sexually repressed societies out there. Now I love the idea that sex is so meaningful that you only share it with special people, but the emphasis on virginity and the idea that sex is dirty and somehow ruins a woman causes so much unneeded misery

Author:	thatkidej [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:57 pm ]
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Quote: Look, I am a man but I think this is so unfair of you toward women. On one hand you put a premium on being prudish and a virgin, and think of virginity as something you can "give" away to someone. On the other hand you seem to have no problems "taking" that virginity without any commitment in return. (I say this because you talk about "girls", not "the girl".) By defining a virgin as "pure", you make confident women who are comfortable with sex "impure". You're attitude is the reason there are so many prudes out there, who have unhealthy attitudes toward sex, and why we have so many sexually repressed societies out there. Now I love the idea that sex is so meaningful that you only share it with special people, but the emphasis on virginity and the idea that sex is dirty and somehow ruins a woman causes so much unneeded misery Whoa whoa, I didn't say I was going to be this girl's first. She's just anti-everything, even hugging. Never had a boyfriend. I just want her to know it's natural. And I'd kiss her if she was okay with it. I'm not down for breaking a girl's virginity, that gets me a whole lot of unwanted attention. A girl going from being anti-any intimacy or having boyfriends to having sex with a guy? That has infatuation written all over it.

Author:	chi [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:19 pm ]
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lol not u kid the first poster I totally sympathize and agree with you

Author:	chi [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:20 pm ]
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wait sorry im confused you is the first poster. That rant is directed toward Beschatten.

Author:	chi [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:36 pm ]
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lol ... well as for your problem, have you ever actually tried hugging her and gotten pushed away? Has she actually talk to you about sex? Each person is different you have to give us a little more about you and her to go on...

Author:	ace_of_spades [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:35 am ]
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Hmm... I usually abstain from giving advice in areas where I have little experience, but this was an interesting thread, so I'll give it a shot. A virgin, a prude and a slut (define these as you will, that's irrelevant for the case I'm arguing) have the exact same emotional wiring, at least on the basic level. Sure, they may logically think of sex as 'dirty', but every healthy being has an innate desire to replicate. I presume that once you get her to the seduction location, you will expect tons and tons of LMR. My favorite way of avoiding that is just going caveman. Get her arousal to the level where she switches logic off. Just get to her innate desire to have sex and... well, fucking voila. You will not logically convince her to have sex with you. Who she has sex with and who she is attracted to is based on emotions, not on logic. So emotional/physical stimulation is what I'd recommend using. If she's uncomfortable with physical contact - dude, this is either her way of weeding out guys who are weak, or you've done something wrong with kino escalation. Or alternative 3, she is a fucking freakshow

Author:	David~ [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:06 pm ]
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Woah, dont get me wrong here but i made no such argument about taking a girls virginity and lacking commitment, i.e. tossing a girl after fucking her. Infact if you ask anyone that knows me I'm probably more committed to things than the girl (meaning I got fucked over a lot), which leads me to studying to be a PUA. I didn't join this community to fuck all the girls on the planet, I joined to get my shit straight in relationships and actually have a choice on who I want to date instead of taking what falls on my lap. I guess what I'm TRYING to say is, I enjoy the slow long process of building something up with someone you could call shy/prude, pacing it to their comfort, than getting ahead of myself and gaming a girl and getting a lay after a few days. I don't know but I can't bring myself to fuck a girl that I don't have an emotional connection with that often, and its difficult to build one with someone that doesn't register as attractive to me. Prude/shy girls are more attractive is my final thought for myself.

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Author:	Killians [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:57 pm ]
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Lots of times those kinds of girls aren't as prude/shy as you might think You just need to build a lot of comfort.