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| Author: | slyder2412 [ Tue May 27, 2008 10:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | High energy or low energy? / EC question |
Hey what's up guys? It always seemed to me that i was more engaging when i spoke a little faster...detailed...but still clear. Everything i read says "talk slowly...pause....make it seem as though she SHOULD wait around to hear you finish your story/sentence. I'm confused though b/c when i talk slower..deeper...and more use more emphasis....eye contact usually breaks and i feel like i'm losing them. What am i doing wrong? How best should i talk to a girl 1on1 or group of people? Also about eye contact.....i HAVE the ability to look them in the eyes 100%(thank you PUA training) but i feel it may show: 1. too much interest 2. Lingering on their every word 3. Not being in sync(rapport) if their EC isn't equivalent to mine But what if my body language isn't 100% square to them and maintain EC? What are the variables that i should consider in making the most impact in showing confidence/sexuality/interest in what they are saying....but still not like i'm fawning over them. |
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| Author: | c_n12 [ Tue May 27, 2008 10:52 pm ] |
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Speaking slowly does work but it has to be executed well or it will come off as dull and boring. You can easily convey enthusiasm with slow and deliberate speech; are you using inflection and variating your tonality and pitch from emotional emphasis? |
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| Author: | The Chef [ Tue May 27, 2008 11:05 pm ] |
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Hey alls, It's been a very long time, but this was compelling to give a reply. Most guys forget to Articulate when they speak, especially in potentially nerve racking situations. This is why most PUAs stress slowing down, simply, because we usually speak too fast. Instead of consciously slowing down your speech, try saying your words clearer and more distinctively. this should give you the desired effect. -The Chef. |
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| Author: | crentist [ Thu May 29, 2008 7:46 am ] |
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I think your only problem is that you don't believe in your slowed down speech. You must believe that it is the most natural and effective way of communicating to others otherwise people won't be as hooked. What I like to do is, whenever you are out, whether it be at work, a party or anywhere, pay attention to the way men of high social value speak. If somebody is particularly good at telling stories, try to take away something valuable from their presentation. Next time you tell a story use something that you learned from them. If someone has a good business model and you want to outdo him, copy some of his techniques that succeed and improve upon them. |
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| Author: | A-Train [ Thu May 29, 2008 10:18 am ] |
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If you want some solid examples of how to calibrate your speech, just Youtube speeches given by politicians. This may sound cliche, as this is a pick up forum, but Bill Clinton is a really good model. Think about it, when politicians are talking they have to "game" a lot of different people all at once in regards to much higher stakes than a phone number or a kiss . Obviously they are going to be the best example of a polished persuasive speaker. |
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| Author: | slyder2412 [ Thu May 29, 2008 3:34 pm ] |
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thanks for the advice guys. What about the eye contact though? As for the politicians being a good model i have to disagree. I understand that the clear/slow/punctual way of their speech is to allow others to be immersed in "the big picture" But...the people who are listening to them have already agreed to give them their full attention. That attention that they are willing to give is still somewhat fragile if the politician can't speak ...but what they are trying to present is on a larger scale than as you said "a simple number close" or "banter story". Basically what i mean is.. i don't think it would be in the same context....if someone is telling a story at a bar....the fact that it's in a bar and not on a podium instantly says that presentation in a bar is of lesser value and therefore attention is more fragile in being broken. Get me? |
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| Author: | A-Train [ Thu May 29, 2008 9:40 pm ] |
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Good point about the difference in context, as the audience does have a different level of comittment to a political speech then a woman has to you when you approach her in a bar. However, I guess I was thinking more about the comfort building and rapport stage in which you would model a politician. I guess I assumed you had already hooked them. If you want a good model for the approach through the hook stage in pick up, I would recomend going on Youtube and watching a bunch of great stand up acts. I especially like the ones where the comedian is dealing with hecklers because it gives you some insight on energy levels, and frame control. Hope this helps man. |
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| Author: | Romantic100 [ Thu May 29, 2008 10:01 pm ] |
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yes you are doing it right but you can get out of slomo after a while start speeding a bit when shes comfortable with being with you touching you. Moving and speaking slow you want to show her your intrested thats the whole point of approaching girls. If you feel wierd doing it dont worry I felt that way doing it my first time but if you keep practicing and working on it then it will become natural remember think MATRIX |
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