Good to see that you're alive, xfman
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| Author: | xfman [ Thu May 01, 2008 1:17 am ] |
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Its awesome to watch the develop of many of you guys, and after watching fight club once again this morning I was excited. There is a progress, sometimes called the J curve or the learning curve. It is based on how the person goes from start learning stuff and finally becoming a MPUA. Well if you are a new guy let me tell you you will have a long way to go, but if in any aspect I could help you I will tell you the next thing: We come here searching for something that we don't have, something that we need, maybe it is self improvement, maybe it is the lack of women in our life, maybe its just we want to become more social or just master the stuff we learned through years. Well, there is something that no seminar, no coach, no teacher will ever show you. Guys pack up into Mystery Workshops, they signed up to Newsletters, they read 30 books about the same stuff so they are sure they know each process... The basis of PU is psychology. Psychology isn't an exact science, there is no correct method for every situation, there is no book that will tell you what to do in every situation, there is no correct answer to a shit test, there is no a "best routine", "best opener". What they teach you is a model ... A Follow up method, a step by step routine so that you practice it over and over until you can perform it as an expert. Now you will feel great ... you think you have it all solved out, but your just seeing the top of the iceberg. There are thousands of factors that can make you get laid but it depends entirely on the circumstances you are in. If every method works why there are so many? To fit each one of you? There are so many methods, so many routines, so many openers that you can write 100 books on how and what opener to use in a nightclub. But why they do it ... There has to be a purpose. So ... We don't have a method, so we can't get woman ?' There are no methods, there are no routines !! They give you routines so you can go out with something to say, you will have something in your mind as a back up so in case your so terrified you will have something to say... Why we always fail opening the first time ? Because we say it like we want to kidnap someone... Ohhmm, Excuse me... Ohmmm can I have your opinion on something ohmmm (they ahve already turned around... nice crash & burn) They give you an opener to build up confidence, when you have done it five times you start realizing how to actually say it so they don't turn around... The only way to learn is through experience. You will build confidence and then ... when you are available to hold your frame, no matter what! Then you will have the lady you want. Its not until then that you start learning everything is just made to give you confidence because you can go in and be as direct or indirect as you want but if you have the confidence, the experience to know whats coming next and whats the best way to do it, then your about to become a good PUA. At the end you will see that the magic key was experience, you will thank all the women that blew you off because they were the best mentors, and the best workshop is out there, and it is waiting for you, to teach you. Life is the modern teacher of the modern PUA. We don't need models, we don't need routines, everything you need is what you are. If you want to change your clothes go ahead, if you want to change your car go ahead. Change everything you want if its going to help you build confidence. But remember: "You will never be complete for society" You will have the best car, but there will be always someone telling you, why don't you bought it in a different color, with different wheels. Success. For you, XFMAN |
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| Author: | Rye Lee [ Thu May 01, 2008 2:11 am ] |
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*applause applause* It's hard to get people to accept this, but it's the truth. There is no quick fix. The purpose of the material, is that it gives so many of you the confidence to get out there and try until you are comfortable enough doing it that you don't need it anymore. Experience is the biggest teacher though. |
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| Author: | brodel [ Thu May 01, 2008 6:39 am ] |
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good post +2 for you |
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| Author: | Chief [ Thu May 01, 2008 7:59 am ] |
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Good to see that you're alive, xfman
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| Author: | Hopeless Romantic [ Thu May 01, 2008 1:27 pm ] |
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Great post. I totally agree. Canned material are just training wheels. Once you build the confidence you should gradually get away from canned lines and build your own style. |
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| Author: | Roads [ Thu May 01, 2008 1:30 pm ] |
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Good stuff xfman. |
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| Author: | x3dxFox [ Thu May 01, 2008 9:33 pm ] |
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Respect. living life is the best teacher I ever had.... |
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| Author: | cain25 [ Fri May 02, 2008 12:51 pm ] |
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I was thinking about it myself some time before. Also I was thinking that all the info available is actually taking you back not moving forward. It makes you read more, learn more, and want more information, techniques, routines.... instead of simply going out and DOING it. Anyway very nice post +1 reputation from me |
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| Author: | Catatonic_Dragon [ Sat May 03, 2008 5:50 am ] |
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Just started this stuff but my high intellect combined with my low confidence with good looks  tells be that I know your right and ever since i read the first page of "The Game" and even put thought into this I knew everything you just said..experience is key...i just needed the push mentally. Everything I've said aside- BRAVO BRO... my second day signed up in this forum and I'm already falling in love with this free minded community...its very inspiring!
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| Author: | joker_jack84 [ Sat May 03, 2008 6:09 am ] |
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Quick fix would be to stop acting AFC immediately. |
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| Author: | Bedrock [ Sun May 04, 2008 3:45 pm ] |
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RESPECT. straight up that was awesome |
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