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| Author: | Impact [ Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why NOT to tell women, about the game. |
By now i have been in the game for 1 year 4 months. Great success, with a wide variety of different types of women. Have got some cool story’s to share, and writing my very own eBook on day game and dating which will be complete fall of 2008. Also thinking of starting some free seminars for people in Sydney, just so i can get used to preparing the lesson plans and in field workshops, for both day and night sarging. So you can say I'm experienced in the field of seduction. With all this, id like to address a issue that i have personally experimented with and id like to voice and reveal my opinion on the subject of telling women about the game. First let me start of by saying, if women ask me or if i need to reveal something, its always put in a certain way in which a woman can actually understand what I'm talking about. I never ever brag about it, nor do I act like this seduction community is a big deal. If there is one mind set I hope anyone who reads this takes away, its that its not a big deal. Having said that people contemplate and act as if its some cure for cancer and that they have a secrete key to a society that’s hidden away. First of all this society couldn’t be more main stream, they are making a movie about it for Christ sake. "The Game" is in stores one of the best sellers, no matter what country you go to. Now if i have to tell a woman what i id word it like this "'I'm very determined on being the best person i can be, and growing into a man with much value to offer his friends and family. I feel as if men in general aren’t living up to their potential, maybe because society hasn’t taught them the way women have been taught over the years, how to act behave, and be. That’s why I’m extremely keen on men’s self improvement, helping guys realise their true potential and to bring it out from within.". Now if you told women what really happens "I learn routines in order to pickup chicks and fuck em, i want to get all the hot girls, and be the man with all the little tricks i learn" Then they will think your weird and this is unnecessary, and your not doing the right thing bra bra.. hares the deal, if we learned even a little about what women do, about how choosy and picky they pretend to be, about all the bullshit and games that they play, we too would be very much against it. But you see women mark men, unlike us men we don’t mark women. Once she’s framed you as the pickup cheesy guy, everything you say will be cheesy and pickup. Even if you tell her something as small as "I'm in this thing called the game, we learn to be better people. And storys to tell and stuff" her response right away will be "you don’t need any of that stuff, your a handsome young man, you can get any girl that you want, why do you even read that stuff, its horrible and cheesy". Bottom line is this. You can introduce it gradually to women, make it sound as if your "Hitchens" form the movie, they all seem to love that movie. And you want to invoke a mans real potential. And get them used to the idea, probably after you’ve slept with them, as a sign that your opening up more to them and you trust them. But there is a great majority of women who really want things to just happen in the moment, they will hate for you to reveal your cards. They will judge you and frame you, and you could end up having to let go of someone you like very much. here are two examples. Hb 7 - 7.5 I have a friend called Ashley, cool cute girl, we hung out watched movies, i told her right up I don't do relationships, she respected that, we had sex several times, then we got bored of sex and just became good decent friends, I told her and introduced her to the game, and she thought of me as hitch! Anyway we talked about relationships and people and it was cool we had a good time and a cool respectful mutual understanding of each other. Hb 8.5 - 9 I have another friend called Emily, or she was my friend, i had to recently let her go. Who I meet and i ran routine game, it was a amazing met up, we clicked, it was just beautiful she was mesmerised and we both lived in the moment. Every time we went out we spend real good quality not quantity time together, it was sensational, and despite having a boyfriend she was ready to get a hotel room with me. I thought because we trust each other so much and because she’s like that, then she’s unique and i can tell her anything. WRONG. Women are women, no matter what! I ended up trying to introduce the concept, she hated it, she hates Neil Strauss, she hates the game, she hates the concept everything. Despite falling for all this shit, she hated it, and now she hated what i did, and she pulled back and every time i tryd to do anything i was hit in the face with her protection shield. I wrecked my chances for advancement. She did not allow me to emotionally stimulate her buying temperature, every time i did she would excuse herself to the bathroom call her boyfriend or someone to try to get out of the emotional state i had put her in. I recently wrote her a email telling her i cant see her anymore, because she still wanted to see me, and spend time with me, but for me it was over...... What? I'm going to just sit there and pretend I have no feelings??? No chance! Take it from me, this is little games that we have, that women have too. "The game" the movie may be released, but at the same time so is "hes just not that into you". This is for you gentlemen, not for her. My personal views. |
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| Author: | Rome0 [ Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:42 am ] |
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Ya, i can see how they would consider it manipulation. Yet many girls are in realtionships for materialistic reasons, now thats manipulation. oh man, they are making a movie on the game??? Opinion openers are completely done for haha. I dont think its a very good idea personally, but w/e.. |
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| Author: | Impact [ Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:50 am ] |
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Quote: Ya, i can see how they would consider it manipulation. Yet many girls are in realtionships for materialistic reasons, now thats manipulation.
oh man, they are making a movie on the game??? Opinion openers are completely done for haha. I dont think its a very good idea personally, but w/e.. I don't think they will give out that much information! If they do their marketing is screwed. I think they will tell the story, if we as men don't hype this up then it should be just another movie that people watch. No big deal! |
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| Author: | AJ_Phlare [ Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:01 pm ] |
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This topic is one which i feel can expect some attention and hopefully alot of input from others in the community. Having just had a weekend with some friends from interstate and watched as others from the group discussed the game with our female friends/targets as one pulled off an arogant up himself kinda guy role, and another lent 'the game' the book to one of them to read, i found that it actually helped me expand into common fields of intrestest with some of the targets who studied sociology. From this point of view i looked respectable with factual information, whilst one friend looked like he pulled it out of his rectum. Despite trying to explain how it was not really sleazy, i dont think we pulledi t off too well as they ended up in the mind set of social manipulation and utter bullshit. When asked waht i thought game was about and used for. I said it helped people to relise how they can best themselves socially and can give people the confidence to expand social fields whilst making the flaws in waht they had done wrong to be rejected or not seen as alpha in groups or things seem more obvious... like pick ups that some people use the knowledge for. Some people see it as manipulation for girls, but i see it as pointing out where you went wrong with social interactions beforehand. If you take a guy thats gone up and tried to pick up 10 girls as opposed to a guy that has tried to pick up 1,000 girls, it helps them be like the guy who has gone up to 1,000 chicks instead of just the 10. Another mate told me under no circumstances should game be discussed with women... and this was the general consesus from that social group. Obviously from a "i wanna get laid" point of view this is probably best... but i figure if you cant come up with something better to talk about... you should probably go open another set and find someone more intresting HB9 or 10 or not. Im quite new to the forums and have not done too much more reading into things other then the book and things that other wannabe PUA's friends have told me. But wether its the confidence it gives me or the knowledge it has given me... results seem to speak for themselves. |
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| Author: | Roads [ Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:03 pm ] |
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Never give in to the temptation to bare your soul to your woman. Either they get bored and leave, or they get scared and leave. |
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| Author: | speed-bird [ Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:16 pm ] |
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I hope they give it the same SPAM as in Magnolia. Not much real information was given away, the focus was more on the character of the PUA and his emotional state. The thing about that movie was that the PUA was one of many characters, so there wasn't much time to go into his material in any depth, there was just enough time to get to know the character and know the effects of his material rather than the specifics of seduction. |
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| Author: | christopherphilip [ Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:41 pm ] |
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Tell 'em after you get in a serious relationship where honesty is key. It's the same reason you don't tell people you can read body language. They will feel manipulated and deceived regardless of the reality of things. It would take you forever to explain the limitations and method of PUA and for that time period they'd feel resentful. |
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| Author: | saqchek [ Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:36 pm ] |
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The first rule of Fight Club is.....do not talk about Fight Club. Nothing good can come from telling women about PUA. Some of my own PUA friends found out this first hand when they decided to tell the girls they were fucking about it. No good can come from it. Hell, I don't even tell guys much less women. What I do talk to women about is the psychology behind attraction and the interactions between men and women with body language. They do love that. |
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| Author: | Hopeless Romantic [ Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:57 pm ] |
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Its a tough situation. However, in The Game, Style mentioned that he told at least some of his girls about being a PUA and he also said that most of them had little affect on them. It was probably in how he said it. I agree with not telling women, "yeah I'm in this community that helps guys learn to get laid." But not telling them at all is a hard thing to do, especially if its such a big part of your life. You need find a way to say it in a more positive light. |
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| Author: | BlueRed [ Sun May 11, 2008 6:25 am ] |
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You guys think thats bad, i just read the latest cosmo, and it warns women about people whove read 'The Game' and the routines they may be using. |
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| Author: | xLINKx [ Sun May 11, 2008 10:39 am ] |
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So what, tell them you're a player and move on. Not a big deal, some girls like that. |
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| Author: | Financialwar [ Wed May 14, 2008 6:08 pm ] |
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Quote: You guys think thats bad, i just read the latest cosmo, and it warns women about people whove read 'The Game' and the routines they may be using.
sigh, soon this community will be mainstream
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| Author: | Waffle [ Thu May 15, 2008 3:04 am ] |
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The reason why not to tell women is because they don't believe that it works. And none of us has the lung capacity or patience to try to explain and prove this is real. Trust me...I've tried. I told her to wait and see after her not believing me. I'll be keeping a log about my interactions with her. |
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| Author: | Fiction dTAJIr8v [ Thu May 15, 2008 8:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why NOT to tell women, about the game. |
Quote: Having said that people contemplate and act as if its some cure for cancer and that they have a secrete key to a society that’s hidden away. Quote: Never give in to the temptation to bare your soul to your woman. Either they get bored and leave, or they get scared and leave.
Certainly not before you slept with her at least. That was a rookie mistake.
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| Author: | Artist617 [ Thu May 15, 2008 6:59 pm ] |
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im not going to lie i have told a HB that im a pua. Reason why umm i wanted to break tie with this girl. HAHA so i told her this and i got what i wanted. well she got her emotional in check. CHEERS P.S. she was getting way to attact. |
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