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Author:  speed-bird [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:25 am ]
Post subject:  Was this an error?

Went sarging with an unreliable wing a few nights ago. Opened manys a set (and eventually #/K closed a lesbian) but there was one set in a wine bar that intrigued me afterwards.

It was a 2-set sitting at the bar on high chairs, HB8 and HB7, their jackets were hanging on the seat-backs. I positioned myself and my buddy behind them since there was plenty of room there, the rest of the bar was pretty crowded. I didn't open the set immediately, ignored them in fact, focussed on chatting to my wing, getting the wine menu from the bartender, getting the drinks ordered, and only then did I open the set. Did some c/f stuff, I think I overnegged a little on HB8 who let me know she was 'between jobs,' and when I saw her reacting with something other than laughter I assured her I was just kidding, back-pedalled and related to how I was once in that position. Then I changed the subject. Prolly should have changed the subject right away instead of giving her what amounted to an apology?

Oh well. I think the rapport was building well here, and it was getting hot in there. I was wearing a big coat because it was a cold night, and I had to take it off to avoid sweating. I needed somewhere to hang it, so I promptly put it on the back of HB8's chair on top of her own coat, saying "I hope you don't mind if I put this here." (Previously I would have asked nicely for permission, but not since learning the game.) She didn't object, but my wing observed something at this point.* A few minutes later the girls decided to leave very suddenly, leaving almost half a glass of wine in their glasses.

* What my wing had observed, and he told me this in the post-mortem, was that HB8 looked like she was freaking out when I was setting my coat on top of hers. I thought nothing of it at the time, I wasn't trying a move - I genuinely needed somewhere to hang my coat.

Is there some rule of ettiquette that I haven't come across yet about putting your coat on top of someone else's? Ettiquette can be a bit of a minefield, as any viewers of Seinfeld will know.

Did I look like I was trying to nail her down and limit her movements?

Author:  c_n12 [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:46 am ]
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It wasn't so much an ettiquette thing and she didn't want to hurt your feelings so she didn't say anything. As a timing thing, you appeared to be conveying a "make yourself at home" kind of attitude and the girl was not yet ready for comfort - as you suggested she felt like you were making a move.

Author:  Gay [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:02 am ]
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You came in seeming creppy if she gave a weird look.

Girls are like that, to fuck with her mind just tell them someone is creppy.

Author:  Killians [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:05 am ]
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As a timing thing, you appeared to be conveying a "make yourself at home" kind of attitude and the girl was not yet ready for comfort - as you suggested she felt like you were making a move.
Yeah I agree.

You settled in too quick. You should have walked away from the set and done the "I am going to look for my friend" thing.

Author:  speed-bird [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:07 am ]
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It wasn't so much an ettiquette thing and she didn't want to hurt your feelings so she didn't say anything. As a timing thing, you appeared to be conveying a "make yourself at home" kind of attitude and the girl was not yet ready for comfort - as you suggested she felt like you were making a move.
Ah, escalating before comfort has been built. A bit of kino prior to this might have helped.

Interesting how the c/f attitude is now coming naturally, almost to the point where I have to be aware of it and not go too far with it.

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