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Author:  AV8OR [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:15 am ]
Post subject:  Too Many Women Know Now!!

Heres the jack, need to know from others cos its wrecking my head at this stage!!

Was out at a bar last nite with a few of my mates, no PUAs except me..
As the night progressed i saw a 2 set of HB8.5's..anyway i walked up opened up and i couldnt believe what i heard.

Me:Hey Guys I need a quick opinion blah blah Time Constraint fukin blah

anyway i opened the set but little did i know that this girl knew everything i was doing and was nodding her head like a fuckin donkey!! I was like wats ur problem she goes

"ive seen the videos ive read the articles i know what your doing".

I go "oh ye and wats that"? your one of those mystery guys who goes around picking up girls ive seen them on youtube. Pretty much a shit test but i was fucking blown away i didnt no wat to say i was like dunno wat ur on about but if your going to be rude im fucking off back to my mates and i did!!

Also was out at a club called destiny on friday, EVERY GUY IN THE PLACE WAS PEACOCKING, HOW IS IT PEACOCKING IF EVERY1s DOING IT, IT MAKES NO SENSE ANYMORE!!

I love this community dont get me wrong, but after all the media and publicity it has exploded and now so many people know about it!

Anyway i just want to know what everyone thinks any input is much appreciated!!

Thanks,
Mr.A

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Author:  Chief [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:29 am ]
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oh man
I don't want to read these threads anymore x_x
THERE'S TOO MANY OF THEM!!! AHHHH!!!!

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Newbies and the rest of the unenlightened bunch can bitch, whine, and moan all they want. Mystery is just being a good teacher and mentor to the entire community by PUSHING US TO GO DEEPER and to evolve into better, more natural and centered PUAs. He's also letting more people become aware of another option they have in life to take control of their love life.

I can't wait for season 2...AND I CAN'T FRIGGIN WAIT FOR THE MOVIE
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I don't care what Mystery's intentions are. I just know that I have a control over my own reality and can affect the effects from external causes. I have the choice to reframe the manner in which other things affect me, therefore shaping my actual reality. Some people mistakenly choose to have this VH1 stuff become a detrimental effect to their success. I say Fuck That. I can choose to see benefits and therefore benefit my own success, regardless of others' intentions. My intentions are all that matters in my own reality.
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Regardless of what Mystery's intentions are, I think that what he is doing is going to have GOOD effects on the community...and he's gunna make a buttload of more money in the process.

Going mainstream is different from the programs he has been doing in the sense that they have different kinds of beneficial effects on society as a whole. Mystery has always been a leading pioneer in the community with new ways of doing things, and I think he's leading the community in a good direction, regardless of his potential financial greed.

So, I'll say again that I don't care what Mystery's intentions are because he's not doing the community any bad. He's only helping more people in different ways through his "exploitations," whether he likes it or not.

Oh, and the show is highly entertaining lol

With all that said, let's look at a common theme that resonates in the community... I'll quote directly from Style's Rules of the Game, "The comfort zone is enemy territory."

I think a lot of people are looking at this whole VH1 situation in a negative light because they haven't yet developed their Inner Game. These CHANGES that Mystery is bringing the community is only going to help it GROW ... but guess what? Most people (average people...who happen to be frustrated lol) RESIST change. They FEAR change. They fear the unknown because they can never have total control over the future, and this makes them uneasy.

I say we should EMBRACE change...EMBRACE growth and maturity...Let's tackle Change head-on by seeing how it can benefit us, instead of resisting any potential growth by cowering in fear. In the long run, it really does feel great to step out side of your comfort zone.

PUAs know this :wink:
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Wow, there is so much whining and complaining on this thing. ITS NO BIG DEAL. Look you guys like Mystery and everything right? Ok well guess what, HE WANTS TO MAKE MONEY, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. The fact that he may have started out as some nerd with chick problems, makes him no diff than Bill Gates, except the stealing of concepts thing lol. Look, everyone will say, "Oh well if hes in it for the money then he's in it for the wrong reasons, BLAH BLAH BLAH" SHUT UP!! Guys, he's human, just like you or me. If he can make money, and help people at the same time, THEN WHY THE F*CK NOT!?! You people are saying, "oh well its gonna go way more in depth and this and that.." Well guess what, I have to say, there is NO WAY in my mind he would go into the Secret Society thing ya know? He can only go SO far anyway, without messing himself up. You think HE's not catching shit like this already? I wouldn't be surprised if he was doing the show again JUST because he can't go somewhere without a girl or "PUA" calling him out or hassling him with questions all night. I mean WTF, we want this guy, THIS GOD, in our world to show us the way through every little thing. FUCK THAT SHIT!!! Find a new "Guru" get more into SOMEONE ELSE'S stuff, that way you dont have to worry about being called on HIS shit. GET MORE NATURAL, PLEASE get a more natural way of going about it. I mean honestly, Im sure more than a couple of guys who are REALLY good at ths shit will tell you that your shit is WEAK AS HELL, if you're still asking opinion openers. I'm comng from a VERY new point of view and even I can see that. Look at RSD, and the newer guys at PracticalPickup.com ITS ALL GOING NATURAL. Now of course, people all just about see THE GAME nowadays as their first source of info into this community. SOMEONE, definitely NOT me needs to write a new story THEIR STORY and lead into how much better the Natural way is. One that has the same basic outline but NOT THE SAME STORY. Look, you could even tell in Style's transformation in the book that his stuff went more natural and that like like 3 or 4 YEARS AGO. C'mon, that's where its headed and that's where its gonna go. REAL naturals dont rely on this shit like we do, we need to get the F*CK away from Mystery's little INFORMATION TIT and work for ourselves. He's only ONE GUY. How much can he teach OUR ENTIRE WORLD. Let Mystery and his crew do how they wanna do and find a DIFF approach. We're so much like a little mini-world evolving in our own heads its sick. WE MUST GROW AND WE MUST EVOLVE TO SURVIVE. Thats how the real word works and it doesn't matter how much or how often we go out into our own little places in our mind, WE'RE STILL HERE, and very much alive in the REAL WORLD. Get ahold of yourselves. You're MEN. You took the plunge to get so deep into this thing. NOW, DIG YOURSELVES OUT. Like I said if you're still using opinion openers, YOU NEED TO MOVE ON. I'm a newb and can see this shit. I dont have anymore time to waste on this thing. I have some REAL shit to do.

Pill-

Author:  AV8OR [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:36 am ]
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cant believe u went through all those quotes to make that comment!!WOW!

Author:  Mr Fahrenheit [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:27 pm ]
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'hey slutbag, if you know this then clearly you know i think your a babe and want your genitals in my mouth.. you should pleased with the attention.. now are we going to hav anymore of this crap or are you just going to play along..?'

Author:  Rye Lee [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:54 pm ]
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I have had a lot of girls ask me if I'm going to ask them what kind of shampoo they use when I ask if they are best friends and one girl told me that a guy ran 5 Lies on her, plus some various random things. That's one reason I run natural game, because it doesn't bug me, I just turn it into a fun topic, or I act like I have no idea what they are talking about and transition into something else that they won't recognize as game, because it isn't published anywhere.

Author:  saqchek [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:24 pm ]
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Can we lock shit threads like this? They do nothing positive for the community and it's just a rehash on AFCs with low self esteem that keep using canned material over and over again and freaking out when they get busted.

Author:  Rye Lee [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:04 pm ]
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Can we lock shit threads like this? They do nothing positive for the community and it's just a rehash on AFCs with low self esteem that keep using canned material over and over again and freaking out when they get busted.
No, but you can just not open them.

Author:  AV8OR [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:41 pm ]
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'hey slutbag, if you know this then clearly you know i think your a babe and want your genitals in my mouth.. you should pleased with the attention.. now are we going to hav anymore of this crap or are you just going to play along..?'
I know that deep inside your hurting...

Author:  Archangel White Rose [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:49 pm ]
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My problem isn't with the PUA community going public. My problem is that the method is becoming famous while the ethics are being left behind.
Some basic foundations of PUA are:
"leave them better than you found them."
"PUA is NOT about getting women primarily, it is about improving yourself and becoming a better man."
"Honesty is always best."

Author:  AV8OR [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:28 pm ]
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My problem isn't with the PUA community going public. My problem is that the method is becoming famous while the ethics are being left behind.
Some basic foundations of PUA are:
"leave them better than you found them."
"PUA is NOT about getting women primarily, it is about improving yourself and becoming a better man."
"Honesty is always best."
That is exactly my point!!

Author:  saqchek [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:46 pm ]
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Can we lock shit threads like this? They do nothing positive for the community and it's just a rehash on AFCs with low self esteem that keep using canned material over and over again and freaking out when they get busted.
No, but you can just not open them.
Well they should be. Threads like this bury the other good ones that possibly need more attention. I mean, can you honestly think of a reason why a post like this shouldn't be moved to the "newbie" section or just flat out locked? I didn't think you could.

Author:  I.Smith [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:47 pm ]
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Author:  Student X [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:48 pm ]
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If people do not change/evolve or improve as PUA's, then as PUA's they will die. It's that simple. I choose to evolve.

Author:  Roads [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:00 pm ]
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Think of it as a chess match. Just because you throw a move at her that you think will checkmate her, and she throws a counter to it, doesn't mean the game is over.

So you got caught running a routine. What do you do?

Simple, go direct:

"Yes, that's one of those cheesy pick up lines. I only said it because nothing else came to mind and I knew I wanted to get to know you better."

Sounds a bit AFC doesn't it? Realize that it's not going AFC that's getting you into the set, it's being fun and unpredictable and out of the ordinary that will get people's attention. Same goes for any PUA techniques.

Author:  JackOfNoTrades [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:07 pm ]
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I agree with Student X, we have to adapt to a changing environment. However you have one of the greatest gifts at your disposal. That big, super computer that sits on top of your neck! Go out there and make new openers, routines whatever. If you're relying on canned material then you will not advance as quickly into your desired lifestyle. I'm spouting the 'Give a man a fish' idea here.
Because women are more aware of what you do and how you do it, should only increase your desire and want to get better. As with chess (which pick up is astoundingly similar) you only get better by playing a better opponent.
So yes it does suck that women are aware of the material that has been out there for years, but canned material was only meant to be used as guidelines anyway.

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