Most of the guys that I know that are into pickup do it because it's fun. Sometimes it may get a bit competitive but at the end of the day it's about being able to enjoy yourself and have women in your life. While I fully understand that a guy that has a hard time getting a woman or women may look at it a bit more technical and try to figure out "hows", "whys", and "should I" type of information while learning, it's these guys that call themselves top tier PUAs that dissect bullshit in order to make discoveries that confuse me. That's not what pickup is about. That's not fun.

Fun to me is going out and enjoying what I'm doing and if I see a girl that I find attractive, I can walk up to her and be confident enough to know that I will make a connection. When I do make the connection, things tend to be natural from that point on because I'm not afraid of being able to enjoy myself with a girl and present myself as a sexual option. If she enjoys my company while I'm being that sexual option then most of the time she's going to take that option. To me, that's the essence of pickup and it's fun.

What is it that make some of you go off the deep end where you're more about creating a perfect technique if you always end up in the same position as the guy that can go out and have fun without putting in 1000's of hours of study?

I do agree, but I put in the study time, I genuinely see these as tools and assets that I can use at work (communication, understanding, influence, etc.), in general, my body language skills helped me win poker tournaments, I am a geek and love learning. So I learn very in depth because it's just kind of how I am.... That said I'm a firmly believe in putting in the effort that makes you better every day. Does this mean that you shouldn't be having fun? NOPE, fun is a necessary part of pick up, if it feels like a job then you're doing it wrong.

Fun is contagious and a necessary aspect of growth in pick up in my opinion... that said if I want to get good at pool I don't go to the bar and shoot pool with guys who don't know anything. I go find ways to learn and get better, this happens through tracking progress, deliberate practice for improvement. I feel the same about pick up, if I want to improve at Pick Up, I have to do the things that make me better. Does this mean everyone should go read a stack of books? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

I personally love learning, and have a few book shelves I've filled because I enjoy learning, 1 shelf is almost completely on self-improvement, dating, body language, tools and ideals on dating... so basically all pick up related. However I see these as improving me in so many ways that I don't see it as just me trying to get better with women, for instance I just began a job in sells and now I'm very natural talking to people. I build rapport with ease, read people with ease, and now my only issue is that I need to know my product and services, which is world's better than most people's beginning where they have to master people, product, services... it's also helped me in my current job as a Manager managing people and managing customer issues.

I think that's one of the big reasons when I did coach once upon a time, I would tell them just to go up and start a conversation... and it's cool if you're bad at it, most of us are it will just feel natural to them if both parties are somewhat nervous.

The thing is picking up women should never be just about fucking more women... you should never be that shallow. It should be about improving yourself and social skills. If it's about simply becoming the best you shining forward and you being aware and skilled enough to take advantage of the avalanche of opportunities that will come to you. And as you do these things you are going to have a fun and awesome experience doing pick up but you also have to be aware of set backs and be ok with them as that's simply a part of growth... nothing worth doing is really really easy... but it's worth the effort and it's worth trying to improve your skills and yourself for the sake of you.

Most of the guys that I know that are into pickup do it because it's fun. Sometimes it may get a bit competitive but at the end of the day it's about being able to enjoy yourself and have women in your life. While I fully understand that a guy that has a hard time getting a woman or women may look at it a bit more technical and try to figure out "hows", "whys", and "should I" type of information while learning, it's these guys that call themselves top tier PUAs that dissect bullshit in order to make discoveries that confuse me. That's not what pickup is about. That's not fun.

Fun to me is going out and enjoying what I'm doing and if I see a girl that I find attractive, I can walk up to her and be confident enough to know that I will make a connection. When I do make the connection, things tend to be natural from that point on because I'm not afraid of being able to enjoy myself with a girl and present myself as a sexual option. If she enjoys my company while I'm being that sexual option then most of the time she's going to take that option. To me, that's the essence of pickup and it's fun.

What is it that make some of you go off the deep end where you're more about creating a perfect technique if you always end up in the same position as the guy that can go out and have fun without putting in 1000's of hours of study?

Most of the guys that I know that are into pickup do it because it's fun. Sometimes it may get a bit competitive but at the end of the day it's about being able to enjoy yourself and have women in your life. While I fully understand that a guy that has a hard time getting a woman or women may look at it a bit more technical and try to figure out "hows", "whys", and "should I" type of information while learning, it's these guys that call themselves top tier PUAs that dissect bullshit in order to make discoveries that confuse me. That's not what pickup is about. That's not fun.

Fun to me is going out and enjoying what I'm doing and if I see a girl that I find attractive, I can walk up to her and be confident enough to know that I will make a connection. When I do make the connection, things tend to be natural from that point on because I'm not afraid of being able to enjoy myself with a girl and present myself as a sexual option. If she enjoys my company while I'm being that sexual option then most of the time she's going to take that option. To me, that's the essence of pickup and it's fun.

What is it that make some of you go off the deep end where you're more about creating a perfect technique if you always end up in the same position as the guy that can go out and have fun without putting in 1000's of hours of study?