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| Author: | HBhitman [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Openers for Guys |
So I'm out at a bar a few days ago and there was not one worthy target in the bar. Zero attractive women. A little while later, in walks a three set with two cuties. At this point I'd done nothing to establish a high social value because there wasn't anyone in the bar I thought was worth talking to. My thoughts were that maybe I should have made friends with a few guys hanging around before the hotties walked in. Guys are very different than women. What are some set openers you can use to set up a guy set for merging forward or using them as basically a pivot? |
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| Author: | Chief [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:48 pm ] |
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You are making excuses for your Approach Anxiety, man. You aren't trying to fool us as much as you are trying to fool yourself, though. On the surface level, you are thinking, "Man...If only I had some sort of social proof when that set walked in, I could have easily approached them and gamed effectively." Deep down inside, however, you KNOW that the main issue at hand is AA. Whenever you catch yourself thinking anything along the lines of "If only...," bear in mind the possibility that you aren't being truthful to yourself and that you are letting your ego get in the way of your development as a PUA. Being a PUA means being social. One of the reasons I know that AA is at the core of the issue at hand is because any PUA who is used to opening regular sets is social enough to know how to talk to other guys. You have already learned the M3 model. You have already learned openers. Go out and fearlessly apply them into your real life instead of sitting on your barstool the whole time. With all that said, guys want respect. If you didn't know this already, spend some time getting to know your authentic self, instead of fooling yourself into seeing that bullshit social mask in the mirror that you naturally project onto others (everyone does this, so don't feel bad lol). All you have to say to a guy is "Hey, man," and follow it up with anything that demonstrates friendliness or respect. Saying something like "you see the game last night?" implies that you care about his opinion on something pertaining to sports. With guys and AMOGs, just show respect while maintaining a strong frame and you'll own the venue in no time. Oh, and don't forget to AMOG the hell out of anyone who decides to be a dick to you for no reason. |
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| Author: | HBhitman [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:09 pm ] |
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Holy FUCKDOG Chief, I respect your candor and your critical analysis of my situation but I wish you knew me. Everyone has approach anxiety and I'm not going to claim that I'm any different. I feel it, I move on and usually my first opener ends it. But that is not the question I'm asking. I don't need advice. I want suggestions. If you can't provide them, very well. Much love, - Monkey |
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| Author: | Impact [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:57 pm ] |
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If you'd like to open men for whatever reason, one I use is Hey man cool shirt, my girlfriend bought me the exact same one recently! but she keeps stealing it and wearing it so now I have to buy 2 of everything I own its ridicules! So hows everyone doing tonight, cool, where you all from? I had a friend who lives up there! really good mate of mine Jason, hes a tall dude into cars. I was going to ask him what car to get, I saved up some money, looking for something good! any suggestions? Anything to do with cars, women, music whatever their interest just talk, be cool, respectful! Don't be cocky. As you get to know what type of group they are you can run different material! So if they like to use dumb jokes you coul calibrate fast to them and blend in. If you really wanted to! |
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| Author: | HBhitman [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:00 pm ] |
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Great shit Impact. I like it. I'll work it into my routines. I think (much love to him) Chief might have forgotten the point of openers - to help reduce approach anxiety. |
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