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The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
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Author:  szemet [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
Hi guys !

I recently moved in with some friends in a new city, and, because I could not do it very easily, or because I had more fun than I had home alone, I did not fapped around one month...

The results ? Amazing !!

I discovered pick up and self developement not a long time ago and I started to work on myself, on my personality, my ultimate goal is becoming a real alpha male.

I had a girlfriend 3 years ago, for some months, then we broke up, and after that I did not had any other gf, I was just occasionally flirting with some girls, any attempt leading me to failure in the end (but I learned from each one).


After around one month of no fapping I was amazing, I was flirting with a lots of girls who really liked me (IOI's increased dramatically) and I was really cool, always talking interesting stuff, doing a lot of amazing things, alpha stuff...
I've met avery beautifull girl, and after 2 days we started dating, it was really cool, she was amazing, I was amazing, everything was perfect.

We didn't had sex the first days we hanged out (in a relationship), because she had...her problems...
And when I knew we could finally have sex, the night before going out, I fapped.... and I was instantly transformed in the MOST BORING person ever... Compared to me the night before fapping, I was a mes, talking stupid things, that ere annoying me too... I saw that she noticed that too, and after 2 hours she told me that she thinks I am not the right person. When I met her in tht evening, she loved me, after staying 2 hours with the boring me, she...left me :)

At the time I did not realised it was from fapping, and I was pretty sad and I stopped the "nofap" period... beeing back to normal (boring beta male) again.

2 weeks ago I was analising the situation and I came up with the nofap theory, and I tested it, I didn't fapped for 2 weeks, and I started to be alpha&awesome again... I've met HB 9-9.5 and I was talking with all of them, with great results (belive me, GREAT). After that, I fapped again, and I was back to normal... this can't be a coincidence...

Today I was the most boring person ever, i told to the HB 9.5 I was ating that I had a headache, that's the reason why I was so lethargic and boring.

I will not fap anymore ! the results are too damn good, I think I notice the first improvement after 3 days of nofap. I'll keep you updated !

P.S. Sorry for my REALLY BAD english :D
Author:  fudge_88 [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
Nice man congrats.

I haven't fapped since before christmas. I don't know the exact day, but I've been working so hard on my business that anytime the urge to fap or go out and sarge/online date for that matter has crept up I think it's a huge time waste of time because I'm trying to hit goals right now.

I had a ritualized fapping system that took hours to perform. After watching Don Jon I started thinking I needed to get rid of that shit, but never committed to doing so.

It's great. I'm extremely focused, and I don't feel like a slave to my base urges. I think I'll just cut off fapping entirely forever. It was a habit I developed as a child anyway. I'm a man now and it's time to put away those childish things.

My new years resolution is "Hustle Hard", and I'm trying to live by this quote.

"Homie, you hustling backwards if you're chasing a bitch. Stupid. Chase the paper, they come with the shit."

Of course being a PUA I'm trying to get the paper to chase me with passive income.
Author:  J.Daniels [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
Just had a relapse after 5 days (I've had about 5 streaks in the last 2 months that have been 5 days... before that I did 2 x 12)

Weird, considering I got laid yesterday.
Author:  fudge_88 [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
No worries man. It's not weird, and getting laid has nothing to do with it. The acts are wired differently in your head. One is you taking your own hand and... While the other involves a different person.

It's like smoking or any other habit. People who try and quite cold turkey: 90-93 of them fail without some additional help. Habits are hard wiring. They aren't intangible or in the subconsciousness. They exist in neural networks in your physical brain. Due to your survival instincts which make you repeat patterns that keep you alive your brain is trained into thinking that that's something you need to do for survival because you have been doing it for so long.

David D once mentioned a study done on people who had habits that were killing them. They were told if they didn't stop in a year they would be in a grave. 9 out of 10 of them still had the habits a year later. Hard wiring is extremely tricky and a very touchy subject.
Author:  szemet [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
Fudge, thank you for mentioning Don Jon, looks like an awesome movie, I'm going to watch it right now, maybe it gives me the extra motivation I needed :D
Author:  Camanova [ Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
Nice work man, I'm buying into the theory as well as I've been seeing it pop up here and there, so far so good I feel heaps better and am much more on my game!
Author:  Mr. Stinson [ Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
I am still undecided about the whole situation. On one hand ive had experiences where i felt like i just gave off a better, more attractive vibe to everyone after not fapping and i felt like people payed more attention to me. On the other hand i have a sticky yogurt mess. jk. I have had alot of really good experiences with women when i have excessively fapped too, even shortly before interactions.

Perceived Pro's of nofap for me: ( i say perceived because i cant conclude the correlation between nofap and the benefits with any certainty)
- seem to have a more attractive aura and presence.
- seem to have more drive to do things in general, such as read/workout/study as well as pick up.
- seem to be more patient and not get annoyed with things as easily which goes hand in hand with the above line.
- seem to enjoy things more, particularly i laugh harder at things and smile a more.

Cons:
-blow my load way faster. I take pride in my sexual stamina so being a quicker shooter is a bit of a downer
- My mind can go to filthy, filthy places.
- The sexual appetite becomes less picky, and i find my self being more capiche with inadequate women (either because of their looks or their personality.)

Im about 60% convinced that nofap actually provides benefits. Its most likely that nofap is a placebo however perceived benefits are still beneficial.

My other theory on the subject relates to momentum. the pick up artist sixty years of _____? (i forget his name) talks about the concept of social momentum. Basically the more you think of something but dont act on it, the more momentum you lose (or dont gain) so you should immediately act on your thoughts/feelings.

I believe that in life their is emotional momentum based on the chemicals that are released in your brain do to the the outcome of events. its like having two empty glasses side by side. one for happy/confident/good emotions. one for sad/anxious/bad emotions. if a good event happens, the good glass gets some liquid in it but slowly it evaporates. If a bad event happens then the bad glass fills and it will take either an equal amount of good to balance it out, or just time for the liquid to evaporate. If you have a negative outlook on fapping then each time you fap you will be filing the bad glass regardless of whether your body actually changes. Basically you want to learn to control your emotional momentum by filling the good glass and avoid doing things that will fill the bad glass. Im an accountant so i know nothing about science, but for those that know science i would imagine an argument could be made using endorphins and cortisol. Dont do things that give you bad feelings! Smoking weed is something that has always been a love hate relationship for me. I like getting stoned but it makes me feel anxious and i feel that anxiety is an emotion i should try to avoid if im not gaining anything from it.
Author:  fudge_88 [ Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
You asshole, LOL. I was reading your one hand and other hand line and you lead me into a visual I would rather have not had. What's more you surprised me with it. All I could do was laugh.

Anyway, There is a concept that came to mind as I read through this thread. Fapping is a means to an end. The end was originally meant to create life. Therefore there is life swimming around in my balls.

Life means consciousness. So it is very possible that these cells are full of their own little subconsciousness(es) nothing major, probably on a level less than an animals since animals have developed brain systems. This would contribute to my being in some way. This could be the reason for the motivation and extra powers people experience during this period.

This is all just theory of course and I don't believe there is a way to test this scientifically. I've become very disillusioned with science. Science has so many damn limitations built into the system that it's impossible to glean any real truths about the most powerful concepts I see in my day to day life. For instance science can't explain the mind. It can talk about the brain and the biology of it, but the mind transcends science and people who get stuck in the science paradigm can sometimes believe that they are only electrical impulses, and sacks of meat. Nihilism is a very evil thing that is extremely common among scientific minds, and especially in the PU community.

If this was the case then 100% of people would not be able to get rid of a habit because of the neural connections. Once laid, theoretically they should govern every action a person takes for the rest of their lives. Like a computer program full of if then statements. Or an animal. A computer can't go against it's programming, an animal can't go against it's instincts (for the most part in the wild anyway), but a human can.
Author:  Mr. Assertive [ Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
I feel like crap whenever I fapped...more so lazy and my right hand was tired. i haven't fapped for one month and I don't have the urge to. I let the girls I have in my life do that for me.
Author:  fudge_88 [ Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
I still haven't fapped. If you just fap to desensitize yourself so you can perform longer then here is a tip.

I read about this character in a Manga named Rou Ai. He was this virgin loser but had a talent he used to make money in ancient Waring china where he would lift wagon wheels with his erections, and people paid him to see it. This merchant needed someone to appease the queen so he sought out Rou Ai and made him the queens sexual slave.

I think Rou Ai is based off a real dude so I began looking for ways to emulate Rou Ai. I wanted super stiff erections and discovered some tips on how to train the muscles (tendons or w.e.)

Long story short there are two methods. One stiffens your erections. It doesn't involve fapping so if your into physical training you should incorporate this into you're training regime.

Here you can train to become a modern Rou Ai:http://www.puatraining.com/blog/how-to- ... for-longer

Now for the other thing this is flirting with the devil. Basically you fap up until the "blow point" then you stop. You practice stopping ejaculations so then you become a man who can have multiple orgasims and control ejaculations.

http://www.puatraining.com/blog/how-to- ... s-as-a-man

I say it's flirting with the devil because you can justify fapping while still being no fap. Don't ejaculate during the training. But will you be able to control yourself and prevent yourself from going all the way?

I haven't done the latter since entering into my hustle hard mode.
Author:  Versalis [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
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I have read a bit about the whole nofap thing lately. Alot of the time when i think about pick up i try to reference it in regards to how caveman/cavewomen would have acted.

A Caveman : Prehistoric, sleep, hunt, eat, fuck, wear loincloth kind of man.

I personally dont think Cavemen would have masturbated. I think at our most primitive, the human mind is centered around survival and procreation and any energy was used to do one of the above mentioned activities. No time would be spared to pleasure ones self.

Therefore physiologically; masturbation is unnatural. Im not debating if its good for you or not, just if it is actually in our genetic makeup.

yes, no, maybe?
Yes, it is. Gorillas, monkeys, orangutans, even bonobo, all masturbate. Even when they actively have partners. Orangutans usually have a harem or nothing. The bachelors masturbate like crazy.

I still feel that NoFap is a cult.
Author:  Warped Mindless [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:10 pm ]
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I have read a bit about the whole nofap thing lately. Alot of the time when i think about pick up i try to reference it in regards to how caveman/cavewomen would have acted.

A Caveman : Prehistoric, sleep, hunt, eat, fuck, wear loincloth kind of man.

I personally dont think Cavemen would have masturbated. I think at our most primitive, the human mind is centered around survival and procreation and any energy was used to do one of the above mentioned activities. No time would be spared to pleasure ones self.

Therefore physiologically; masturbation is unnatural. Im not debating if its good for you or not, just if it is actually in our genetic makeup.

yes, no, maybe?
Yes, it is. Gorillas, monkeys, orangutans, even bonobo, all masturbate. Even when they actively have partners. Orangutans usually have a harem or nothing. The bachelors masturbate like crazy.

I still feel that NoFap is a cult.
Right. Its just another "quick-fix" fad that hopefully dies out soon.
Author:  detox75 [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
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I had a ritualized fapping system that took hours to perform.
....holy shit dude, aside comment of the week
Author:  Versalis [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The nofap works for me, i have no more doubts !
I wonder if it involved wearing a special hat and theme music?
Author:  detox75 [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:13 pm ]
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I wonder if it involved wearing a special hat and theme music?
At a minimal that, and in addition I was thinking incense, candles, anime puppets in special outfits, and a cosplay scenario with pre-recorded voices
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