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Author:  Kylefreeman6775 [ Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Women pawning men against each other
If you have a target, who is coming onto one of your acquantances, how do you turn the tables by getting her into you with out making it obvious thats what you're trying to do or being try hard? I don't like giving women the satisfaction of competing for them, however some times a women I would like to get with talks to the guy right next to.

Here's an example. I'm a bouncer at a night club. Standing guard with another bouncer at the entrance. Women I'm interested in all night will either ask question to my partner, or flirts with partner in the middle of my conversation with him and she makes me look stupid and I'm getting jealous at the site of being interrupted & ignored like I'm not there while my partner has this woman all over him. I mask my annoyance by complete silence and look straight ahead...but woman is blabbing to partner RIGHT NEXT to me and my reaction feels unnatural. How do I handle this to either get the upperhand, get the woman into me and/or handle the situation???
Author:  CharlesFinley [ Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:01 pm ]
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Your partner and you should be winging each other... A good wing can seal the deal!
Author:  Kylefreeman6775 [ Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:24 pm ]
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I rather do it alone. Don't want to depend on anyone.
Author:  DJ_Z [ Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:55 am ]
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Dude there's nothing wrong with teamwork, assuming you don't hate the guy you work with. You said it yourself, women are flirting with you ALL THE TIME. Sharing is caring!
Author:  oceanx [ Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:43 am ]
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If her friends are nearby turn the tables on her and chat them up. Whatever you do don't show that it affects you. Pretend the person talking to the other guy is his grandmother.
Author:  Kylefreeman6775 [ Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:54 pm ]
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If her friends are nearby turn the tables on her and chat them up. Whatever you do don't show that it affects you. Pretend the person talking to the other guy is his grandmother.
I try sooo hard to do this. Ignore it. Problem is mind is a powerful thing....I feel like as if micro expressions on my face I got no control over give me away. Last night this 10 was flirting with the food guy in front of me. Aaaalllll fucking night. She must've known it bothered me cause she looked right at me and gave him a lap dance. This dude girlfriend had just left and he was getting kisses to. Yet not even a hi or aknowledgement forf me. As a guy- at worse I'm a 7 that was being treated like a 4. I was invisible....and as a bouncer I'm suppose to watch the food station so I can't just leave. Girls will do this to me all night. This guy whose girlfriend just left and has this 10 making me jealous and question my own attractiveness has this 10 aaall over him, and more girls see whats going on so now more hit on him, while I;m bored out my mind watching all the action. Its almost like all the girls are punishing me for something. Thats why I'm very choosy who I wing for and get winged by. Women seem to use other guys against me to play games or ruin my self esteem. When I'm not around other random guys they don't got shit. I'm fine alone or with 1-2 people I trust, but in this night club SPAM I get burnt pretty bad by chicks who blatantly ignore me and talk to the employee right in front of or next to me...and this happens aaaaalllll night. I'm ugly, but I'm fucking hot. Unconventionally good looking if you wanna call it, but I stand out. Maybe to the chicks my employees are more physically attractive. If thats the case is there anything I can do to not look stupid standing alone while the dude in front of me who I know I'm so much coooooler than gets aaall the attention.

The problem is so bad I'm starting to dread going to work. It bothers me and makes me feel that down on myself.
Author:  Kylefreeman6775 [ Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Women pawning men against each other
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If her friends are nearby turn the tables on her and chat them up. Whatever you do don't show that it affects you. Pretend the person talking to the other guy is his grandmother.
I try sooo hard to do this. Ignore it. Problem is mind is a powerful thing....I feel like as if micro expressions on my face I got no control over give me away. Last night this 10 was flirting with the food guy in front of me. Aaaalllll fucking night. She must've known it bothered me cause she looked right at me and gave him a lap dance. This dude girlfriend had just left and he was getting kisses to. Yet not even a hi or aknowledgement forf me. As a guy- at worse I'm a 7 that was being treated like a 4. I was invisible....and as a bouncer I'm suppose to watch the food station so I can't just leave. Girls will do this to me all night. This guy whose girlfriend just left and has this 10 making me jealous and question my own attractiveness has this 10 aaall over him, and more girls see whats going on so now more hit on him, while I;m bored out my mind watching all the action. Its almost like all the girls are punishing me for something. Thats why I'm very choosy who I wing for and get winged by. Women seem to use other guys against me to play games or ruin my self esteem. When I'm not around other random guys they don't got shit. I'm fine alone or with 1-2 people I trust, but in this night club SPAM I get burnt pretty bad by chicks who blatantly ignore me and talk to the employee right in front of or next to me...and this happens aaaaalllll night. I'm ugly, but I'm fucking hot. Unconventionally good looking if you wanna call it, but I stand out. Maybe to the chicks my employees are more physically attractive. If thats the case is there anything I can do to not look stupid standing alone while the dude in front of me who I know I'm so much coooooler than gets aaall the attention.

The problem is so bad I'm starting to dread going to work. It bothers me and makes me feel that down on myself.
Author:  Kylefreeman6775 [ Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Women pawning men against each other
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Dude there's nothing wrong with teamwork, assuming you don't hate the guy you work with. You said it yourself, women are flirting with you ALL THE TIME. Sharing is caring!
PSH....the problem is the other guys LOL. Women flirt with me until theres other guys around me. Then they ALWAYS wanna flirt with the guy thats right next to me.
Author:  Kylefreeman6775 [ Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:33 pm ]
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LOL I'm begginning to feel like Elliot Rodger. Because (elliot rodger voice) I'm beautiful.... (brushes hair to the side). Yet you girls don't see it.
Author:  oceanx [ Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:38 am ]
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Without knowing the full background I think you possibly need to get out on off-hours and cultivate a lifestyle independent from whatever happens at the club. Meet more girls, as the saying goes. If you do this, your 'i dont give a fuck' meter will be on the highest setting when you're at the club. The women there will notice this. More importantly you'll be in a more carefree mood and the women will probably game you more, however you won't really care either way because you've got tons of options.
Author:  Kylefreeman6775 [ Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Women pawning men against each other
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Without knowing the full background I think you possibly need to get out on off-hours and cultivate a lifestyle independent from whatever happens at the club. Meet more girls, as the saying goes. If you do this, your 'i dont give a fuck' meter will be on the highest setting when you're at the club. The women there will notice this. More importantly you'll be in a more carefree mood and the women will probably game you more, however you won't really care either way because you've got tons of options.
WOW, BEST ADVICE on this topic YET. Good news is I finally EXPERIENCED what you're saying last night. Here is an update. Still no REAL move has been made because I haven't been qualifying to see if the girl is right....but the good step is my inner game improving, now making moves seems like it'll be the easier part, its just a matter of pulling the trigger. My only real concern is being at work...I want to game under everyones nose. Don't want to be under the microscope, but anyways...

I finally experienced how accepting your flaws as what it is and being happy with your strengths when it comes to physical appearance (which being insecure about it was affecting my inner game) greatly improves my inner game to the point where I feel confident and on fire!

I was posted next to the ladies man employee I work with last night. The guy who usually soaks up all the female attention, the main one I speak of on this topic, and for the first time I stood my ground. MANY women came up and initiated conversation and since my whole inner mentality was that I'm a hot, sexy, desirable, man-how I was being recepted as by the ladies changed completely. Now I was getting flirts along side him all night. ALSO-THE FACT that I got a girlfriend that does everything for me helps me come across as less needy which ups my i dont give a fuck meter like you said....and like you said they seem to sense it and talk to you first because of it! It all makes sense.......!

HOWEVER, DUE TO my desire to play it safe at work I don't want to do what I know I can which is number close and/or be sexual because I don't want the attention of how smooth I could be on me AT WORK. SO I DECIDED I'll use me being at work and wanting to be secretive as a reason to whisper in the girls ears while I qualify her (and when I do I can really escalate kino)!!! My question to you pua's and mpuas NOW on my update now, is if my qualifying questions are okay and if how straight up it is is okay?????? THE GAME HAS never been this clear to me to the point I go through with it on action so thats why I ask...

The questions are legit answers I want from the ladies to decide if she is ok for me to get sexual with.
The lady has be okay with me having a girl, not stalkerish, crazy, easily attatched, and is fun and open.

My qualifying questions:

You're physicaaly sexy and all, but i have a girlfriend already. Are you worth the guilt? Because I can't just hook up with ANY girl?

(If she says no for what ever reason tell her cool. If she qualifies herself move to next question which is...)...

You're not stalkerish or gonna blow up my phone at weird hours right? I only deal with women that are mature and can have fun be spontaneous and live in the moment. Does that sound like you?

(If she gives me the right answers which are no and yes, I would award her with a hug and tell her I think I like you already)

Then from here I could number close by explaining Im at work, but we can continue this, or im im out work build comfort at a secluded location. (forgot the technical pua name for this), but switch locations. My game has come together. Everything makes sense now.
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