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| Author: | DdOS [ Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Dual face of seduction community |
Seduction gurus are offering you a solution to all your problems, they are saying that by just following their stuff you will become a master in seduction, but most PUA i met are strong on words and weak in action(and i heard others say that too), on the other hand AFCs, as we call them have been pulling girls for centuries without any of this, we must brush our game to perfection to be able to pull something, and al around me i see people pulling girls and acting like it is most normal thing in the world. I would sum up that i believe apart from some few of very talented people out there(that were unpolished diamonds to begin with) PUA for most people just sets the game straight between them and AFCs, it is not automatic win, no god mode, just a password to let you play the game, the same game everyone else is playing, and you get a crash course to get you up to speed on what is going on around. So in essence there are two PUA societies, a fabricated one that is a group of Shaolin like gurus with techniques that grant them powers beyond human and a real one consisting of people that fell behind in this race and a few coaches that help this people get back in, not rely much advantage, just getting on equal footing with all other players in this game. Of course maybe i am wrong and all the people here are wonderful masters that can pull 5 out of 5 sets but that seems far fetched from what i saw. |
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| Author: | Jay (Majik) [ Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dual face of seduction community |
Anyone who offers you "a solution to all of your problems" is LYING TO YOU. I coach. I tell every single student I work with that I am not going to hold your hand. I'm not going to give you the code to open Pandora's Box. However, I do help people with things that I can help them with. Most guys who get into pick up don't realize that the first thing that you have to do is fix yourself and all the bullshit that you bring to the table. You can't be some gremlin who sits in a cave all day and expects to go out and get laid because he read a book and watched a few videos on YouTube. You have to go out and meet women and understand what turns them on. Learn how female psychology works and learn to understand emotions. The whole "PUA" thing is just a name. Don't be a pick up artist. Be a guy who is good with women. There is no "secret." |
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| Author: | Hunter_Foxe [ Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dual face of seduction community |
+1 to Majikal's post. You are over-thinking something which doesn't exist. We are all men with a dick and a libido, just with different levels of confidence. There's no point categorising people into different categories; AFC or PUA etc. We are all men motivated by the same primal instinct to have sex. |
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| Author: | Dr_Love [ Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dual face of seduction community |
The guys who get laid OFTEN without PUA's are mostly natural naturals. Most of the guys who are 'normal' get a girlfriend now and then and that's okay for them, they don't think about improving it the way we do. That makes your opinions about PUA based on a few fallacies. You can get laid without PUA -> Some guys f*ck without PUA -> PUA doesn't add anything Negative conclusion from affirmative premises. Not only invalid, it's also not how it is. PUA is about increasing your potential. They could probably close even more with PUA. Your other reasoning is: If PUA would be just for losers -> then losers would benefit from PUA -> Losers benefit from PUA and thus PUA is only for losers. Affirmating the consequent. Also invalid and it suggests that PUA at best brings a loser to a normal level. For the losers that is probably true, but that is no evidence that it can't also improve a natural talented guy's game. Those thoughts come from the fact that there are a lot of 'losers' in the PUA scene, not because PUA itself is just for losers but because someone who is okay with his current results will therefore most often not participate in PUA. |
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