PUA Forum :: "What job do you do?"

I didn't read everything, but my answer to such a question would have been "I'm a clay potter." and immediately change the subject. The trick is to avoid talking about boring facts and talk about experiences instead. Girls can have really lousy conversation skills, even if they have practiced a lot more than us.

eh, I think if you are really a world class potter you can be way more direct about it. Say you are a potter and then because that is unusual she will ask about it and then go into how good you are in a subtle manner. The other approach sounds way too weird / rehearsed and unnatural to me. Plus, you mention the guy is WORLD CLASS at something. Being world class at anything is a HUGE DHV. Why would you not get that across? Seems silly to me.

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The point of an evasive conversation isn't to brag. It's to build a connection. Arrogance only goes so far.

Personally, my problem with this script is that it comes off as stilted and artificial. It doesn't have the natural bends and curves a good conversation. Some women will like it, some won't.

I understand the point of an evasive conversation; what I'm saying is this is NOT the thing to use it with. World class screams DHV. Use something else to build a connection.

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Tsk. Tsk. Tsk.

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I understand the point of an evasive conversation; what I'm saying is this is NOT the thing to use it with. World class screams DHV. Use something else to build a connection.

Your use of DHV was confusing me. I think you meant to say "try-hard" or "trying to hard". Easy mistake to make on both ends.

Honestly i'm not a WORLD CLASS CLAY POTTER!!!!
So i'm hoping the requests for clay masterpieces would stop now, please. plus i'm pissed, Manchester United just drew another fuckin' league game.

Anyway...

That was just an example of how to be more playful and interesting when it comes to boring Yes/no-conversations. Instead of having to tell fake Dhv stories brag about what you do and who you are, in my terms "Douche Game". Maybe the usage of the words "World class" through off the whole message of this post. Ahh
fuck.

Your beloved friend
-The Clay potter guy

Author:	Dusty-Page [ Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:32 am ]
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I want to give two examples of how to drop the same job: a world-class clay potter. You're at a bar talking to some girl. The first question she asks you is "What do you do?" You reply, "I'm a world-class clay potter. I do exhibits here in D.C." The girl looks at her friend and rolls her eyes. "What a loser, bragging about clay pots," she thinks. The conversation dies down a couple minutes later. You're at a bar talking to some girl. The first question she asks you is "What do you do?" You reply, "You mean for money?" "Uh yeah for money." "Well it's complicated." "Complicated?" "Yeah well I work with the Earth. I make things with mud and dirt. Then I sell my mud creations to discerning individuals." "Are you serious?" she asks. "Yeah I love mud. I just have this thing for mud. I mean, who doesn't?" "I don't," she scoffs. "Well that's a shame. Thanks to mud, I'm able to come to bars like this and buy this beer. Cause of MUD." "You're weird." Then she gives you a look, wondering if you're serious or not. Three hours later you're banging her on your bed. On her way out, she notices a picture of you handing a clay pot to the mayor of some small Eastern European town, a piece you sold him years ago. You call her a few days later and she agrees to go out with you, and you sleep with her again. Logic dictates that you should directly state an accomplishment to a girl in hopes of bedding her, but as many guys know, this doesn't work. If logic worked, guys would be wearing t-shirts with their yearly income and/or dick size (the latter for me), yet in reality they would be labeled a douche and laughed out the bar. Be shady and dance around the answer instead. Purposefully not impressing a girl is the best way to impress her, since it shows you don't care about her and that your value is higher than hers. Let her find out things eventually on her own by accident (after some insinuation on your part) where the effect will be much more potent. Let her think: "Why didn't he brag about this great accomplishment?" Let her come at you with a million personal questions instead of you laying it out there for her. Before I studied the game no attractive girl would ask me questions about myself because I had no idea know how to convey my interesting qualities in a confident, non-needy manner. So the only girls who would hang out with me in college were ones who wanted to use my brain to help them study for exams. I was always the friend and never the guy that girls were sexually attracted to. After college I decided to get this part of my life handled. I was lucky to have a couple friends who were club rats and knew how to approach and game women. I started off copying their moves and lines and in the course of six years I developed a system on my own that consistently builds attraction and results in phone numbers, make-outs, and bangs. I no longer have to be friends with girls in the hopes that maybe one day she will want to have sex with me. I no longer hug my pillow at night wondering why I got shafted yet again. Now I meet a girl, game her, and wait for her to ask me questions that serves as a green light to take the interaction to the next level.

Author:	hugge [ Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:14 pm ]
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I didn't read everything, but my answer to such a question would have been "I'm a clay potter." and immediately change the subject. The trick is to avoid talking about boring facts and talk about experiences instead. Girls can have really lousy conversation skills, even if they have practiced a lot more than us.

Author:	Xoved [ Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:45 am ]
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Quote: I didn't read everything, but my answer to such a question would have been "I'm a clay potter." and immediately change the subject. The trick is to avoid talking about boring facts and talk about experiences instead. Girls can have really lousy conversation skills, even if they have practiced a lot more than us. Not exactly avoiding the answer. He meant that when a girl asks such a question, you have to answer it in a playful and unique way that she laughs and gets confused at the same time. Talking about what you really do (for example: I'm an engineer at company X) would bore the hell out of her. I agree with this post. I mostly answer with the old classic line most of the time "I'm a pornstar". They usually laugh and tell me what I really do for a living, then I'd crack up another "I drive at 5 am every morning and fix traffic lights". In other words, humor is the key to such questions. Finally, I answer their question, but I never answer directly, I add some taste of humor to my real job to make it look interesting. Overall good post.

Author:	EmissaryX [ Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:35 am ]
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Indeed, a good post. A mundane conversation about your profession not only comes off as bragging sometimes but it's also boring. When generating attraction, avoiding her questions goes a long way. "What do you do?" "It's classified, I have to kill you if I tell you" Etc

Author:	ConfidenceMatters [ Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:50 am ]
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QUICK SUMMARY: A good rule of thumb is to never give straight answers to girls' questions upfront. It builds mystery and shows that you're not too serious. The longest way round is the shortest way home.

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Author:	EademMutataResurgo [ Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:34 pm ]
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Don't give straight answers to the usual generic boring questions, Where you from? What do you do? etc. Be funny or teasing (also a good chance to bump sexual tension) with those answers and make her work for it, reward good questions with honest or deep answers. If you're constantly teasing then it comes across as childish

Author:	TheFury [ Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:43 pm ]
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eh, I think if you are really a world class potter you can be way more direct about it. Say you are a potter and then because that is unusual she will ask about it and then go into how good you are in a subtle manner. The other approach sounds way too weird / rehearsed and unnatural to me. Plus, you mention the guy is WORLD CLASS at something. Being world class at anything is a HUGE DHV. Why would you not get that across? Seems silly to me.

Author:	TheFury [ Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:01 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: eh, I think if you are really a world class potter you can be way more direct about it. Say you are a potter and then because that is unusual she will ask about it and then go into how good you are in a subtle manner. The other approach sounds way too weird / rehearsed and unnatural to me. Plus, you mention the guy is WORLD CLASS at something. Being world class at anything is a HUGE DHV. Why would you not get that across? Seems silly to me. The point of an evasive conversation isn't to brag. It's to build a connection. Arrogance only goes so far. Personally, my problem with this script is that it comes off as stilted and artificial. It doesn't have the natural bends and curves a good conversation. Some women will like it, some won't. I understand the point of an evasive conversation; what I'm saying is this is NOT the thing to use it with. World class screams DHV. Use something else to build a connection.

Author:	Monsignor Crisanto [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:40 am ]
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Quote: eh, I think if you are really a world class potter you can be way more direct about it. Say you are a potter and then because that is unusual she will ask about it and then go into how good you are in a subtle manner. The other approach sounds way too weird / rehearsed and unnatural to me. Plus, you mention the guy is WORLD CLASS at something. Being world class at anything is a HUGE DHV. Why would you not get that across? Seems silly to me. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk.

Author:	TheFury [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:19 am ]
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Quote: Quote: eh, I think if you are really a world class potter you can be way more direct about it. Say you are a potter and then because that is unusual she will ask about it and then go into how good you are in a subtle manner. The other approach sounds way too weird / rehearsed and unnatural to me. Plus, you mention the guy is WORLD CLASS at something. Being world class at anything is a HUGE DHV. Why would you not get that across? Seems silly to me. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. Can you go back to ignoring my posts instead of posting stupidity?

Author:	TheFury [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:22 am ]
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Quote: Quote: I understand the point of an evasive conversation; what I'm saying is this is NOT the thing to use it with. World class screams DHV. Use something else to build a connection. Your use of DHV was confusing me. I think you meant to say "try-hard" or "trying to hard". Easy mistake to make on both ends. no, being world class is a display of high value. It is not trying to hard at all. You wouldn't use the words "world class" but you would get that point across. You appear to be living in a fantasy land where you think you can get women by using evasive conversation and a bunch of other "techniques" without actually having any value or substance or positive things going for you. You can, sort of, but it's much easier to have tangible positives you can just point to if you have them.

Author:	Dusty-Page [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:48 pm ]
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Honestly i'm not a WORLD CLASS CLAY POTTER!!!! So i'm hoping the requests for clay masterpieces would stop now, please. plus i'm pissed, Manchester United just drew another fuckin' league game. Anyway... That was just an example of how to be more playful and interesting when it comes to boring Yes/no-conversations. Instead of having to tell fake Dhv stories brag about what you do and who you are, in my terms "Douche Game". Maybe the usage of the words "World class" through off the whole message of this post. Ahh fuck. Your beloved friend -The Clay potter guy

Author:	TheFury [ Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:52 pm ]
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Quote: Honestly i'm not a WORLD CLASS CLAY POTTER!!!! So i'm hoping the requests for clay masterpieces would stop now, please. plus i'm pissed, Manchester United just drew another fuckin' league game. Anyway... That was just an example of how to be more playful and interesting when it comes to boring Yes/no-conversations. Instead of having to tell fake Dhv stories brag about what you do and who you are, in my terms "Douche Game". Maybe the usage of the words "World class" through off the whole message of this post. Ahh fuck. Your beloved friend -The Clay potter guy ha. Well, it definitely did for me! The "world class" is the key reason I disagree with the evasive approach!

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